Posts by dubstepped

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Wealth, Poverty, and Morality

by SecondRateMind in

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i am interested in the approach this forum takes to money.

apart from sex, (which i am quite relaxed about) it seems to me that wealth is the surest divider between those who are moral, and those who are not.. it seems jesus thought so, also.

luke 16:19-31 kjv describes well enough his dusty attitude to the rich who do not succour the poor.. and this world has many poor: so many, it might seem that we can do nothing about it, and twist his words; 'the poor ye shall have always with you, but me, ye shall not have always.

dubstepped

What you see as an ad hominem, I see as questioning you the way you are questioning others. It is easy to get on your high horse, to determine what you think is moral (seemingly from a book that features a God that goes against his own morality), and then to hold others to arbitrary standards of your own. It doesn't feel good to have others question your motives and priorities, right?

You're operating here under a utopian image that does not and can not exist. Humans aren't wired that way. People here have shown you that over and over. Is this post just a hope and a wish? You say that you aren't judging but are you not labeling those with different views than you, or perhaps the wealthy, as immoral? Is that not a judgment?

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Wealth, Poverty, and Morality

by SecondRateMind in

jw
friends

i am interested in the approach this forum takes to money.

apart from sex, (which i am quite relaxed about) it seems to me that wealth is the surest divider between those who are moral, and those who are not.. it seems jesus thought so, also.

luke 16:19-31 kjv describes well enough his dusty attitude to the rich who do not succour the poor.. and this world has many poor: so many, it might seem that we can do nothing about it, and twist his words; 'the poor ye shall have always with you, but me, ye shall not have always.

dubstepped

I'm just trying to figure out how 2RM justifies time spent online when he should be spending that time making money to send to the poor. That internet connection and web capable device must cost too. Seems like they're pretty rich compared to some. Even the poor in developed nations are in the top percentage of wealth comparatively. Put your money up and start being equitable. Take the lead.

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Mother is terrified over talks of peace.

by Searching in

just spoke with my mother about the summit for north and south korea, her face turned a ghastly pale and she refused to talk to me about it afterwards.

i know exactly what is on her mind, and i'm not sure if i can say or do anything to assuage her fears about this being a fulfillment of prophecy.

any suggestions on what i could perhaps tell her to try and steer her from her line of thinking?

dubstepped

Is this the whole cry of peace and security thing? I always had issues with that. I could see god stepping in if the world devolved into chaos by throwing it into even more chaos to prove a point (???). I never could understand it when they started saying that maybe it would look like men were achieving peace and then the big g would drop in to mess them all up. WTF is that supposed to prove? It's all just the JWs hedging their bets over predictions made from a nonsensical old book.

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Wealth, Poverty, and Morality

by SecondRateMind in

jw
friends

i am interested in the approach this forum takes to money.

apart from sex, (which i am quite relaxed about) it seems to me that wealth is the surest divider between those who are moral, and those who are not.. it seems jesus thought so, also.

luke 16:19-31 kjv describes well enough his dusty attitude to the rich who do not succour the poor.. and this world has many poor: so many, it might seem that we can do nothing about it, and twist his words; 'the poor ye shall have always with you, but me, ye shall not have always.

dubstepped

Greed works on all sides, the rich and the poor. I think it's great to help people that want to do better and that just need a hand up. I'm not in favor of hands that are just out.

If you make it, it's yours to decide what to do with. None of my business.

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Wealth, Poverty, and Morality

by SecondRateMind in

jw
friends

i am interested in the approach this forum takes to money.

apart from sex, (which i am quite relaxed about) it seems to me that wealth is the surest divider between those who are moral, and those who are not.. it seems jesus thought so, also.

luke 16:19-31 kjv describes well enough his dusty attitude to the rich who do not succour the poor.. and this world has many poor: so many, it might seem that we can do nothing about it, and twist his words; 'the poor ye shall have always with you, but me, ye shall not have always.

dubstepped

Nothing is stopping anyone right now from giving whatever they want if this is all voluntary. If someone wants to, do what you want.

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Wealth, Poverty, and Morality

by SecondRateMind in

jw
friends

i am interested in the approach this forum takes to money.

apart from sex, (which i am quite relaxed about) it seems to me that wealth is the surest divider between those who are moral, and those who are not.. it seems jesus thought so, also.

luke 16:19-31 kjv describes well enough his dusty attitude to the rich who do not succour the poor.. and this world has many poor: so many, it might seem that we can do nothing about it, and twist his words; 'the poor ye shall have always with you, but me, ye shall not have always.

dubstepped

How is it just, fair, and equitable to take what one person earned and give it to another? Reaping and sowing is also a Biblical principle, no?

I grew up poor and watched people do stupid things instead of doing anything to remedy their situations. It's one thing to help people in countries with zero opportunity, but another to enable bad behavior.

If you distributed all money equally throughout the world and let things be, eventually it would probably flow back to the same situation. Lottery winners often end up bankrupt.

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Jehovah's Witnesses in Russia Interrogated by Masked Police

by pale.emperor in

http://www.newsweek.com/jehovahs-witnesses-russia-ban-police-903021?utm_source=quora.

i guess the gb's idea of writing to the russian government last year didn't help?

now they have their names and addresses in which to raid their homes.. i sometimes wonder if the gb knew this would happen and wanted it to happen to ensure they'd be persecuted thus creating their own fulfillment of prophecy..

dubstepped

Oh wow, I feel for them too. It's like they were set up. Ugh.

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Jehovah's Witnesses in Russia Interrogated by Masked Police

by pale.emperor in

http://www.newsweek.com/jehovahs-witnesses-russia-ban-police-903021?utm_source=quora.

i guess the gb's idea of writing to the russian government last year didn't help?

now they have their names and addresses in which to raid their homes.. i sometimes wonder if the gb knew this would happen and wanted it to happen to ensure they'd be persecuted thus creating their own fulfillment of prophecy..

dubstepped

Wait, did they have even the Russian brothers write to the government? Please tell me they weren't that stupid.

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Help me with the disfellowshipping topic, how is it NOT scriptural

by LevelThePlayingField in

many have said that jesus never shunned anyone.

yet it seems that the apostle paul said to shun an unrepentant sinner, "stop keeping company" and "not even eating with such a man" 1co 5:9-12. it seems like shunning is what paul wanted us to do.

but honestly, it doesn't seem right to me.

dubstepped

Where does it ever say to shun someone for the rest of their life even if they changed their behavior simply because they didn't come back and undergo a process of reinstatement that is also not Biblical? Why is a person forever defined by one moment?

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My Personal Atheist Manifesto?

by dubstepped in

so, i have a guy that is emailing me after listening to my podcast series "this jw life" about my life story before, during, and after being a jw.

this guy happens to be an elder and pioneer serving where the need is greater.

i love this guy.

dubstepped

You can go to thisjwlife.com for it. It's a podcast so go to your podcast player of choice iTunes (Apple Podcasts) or Google Play or use an app like Podcast Republic or Podbean to search for This JW Life and download to listen.