Sorry for the first posts. There were some formatting problems hard to fix.
Neo
just seen on the british news a commemoration of the soldiers who fought in wwi.. the generation has by no means passed away.
there are 23 old british soldiers remaining, although sadly only 4 were able to attend the commemoration at the cenotaph.
the youngest is still only 104.. so there is hope yet that the prophecy may still be fullfilled.. has to be quick though boys !!.
Sorry for the first posts. There were some formatting problems hard to fix.
Neo
just seen on the british news a commemoration of the soldiers who fought in wwi.. the generation has by no means passed away.
there are 23 old british soldiers remaining, although sadly only 4 were able to attend the commemoration at the cenotaph.
the youngest is still only 104.. so there is hope yet that the prophecy may still be fullfilled.. has to be quick though boys !!.
I was once trying to convince a dub that the WT was guilty of false prophecy. At one point, I showed the now classical change in the Awake's masthead:
Before
November 1995:Why AWAKE! Is Published
...Most important, this magazine builds confidence in the Creator's promise of a peaceful and secure world before the generation that saw the events of 1914 passes away.After
November 1995:Why AWAKE! Is Published ...
Most important, this magazine builds confidence in the Creator's promise of a peaceful and secure world that is about to replace the present wicked, lawless system of things.He of course already knew of the Watchtower article about the generation change. He experienced some cognitive dissonance in his mind and tried to save face: "They may have changed it but the prophecy can still be fulfilled! There are a lot of people of that generation still alive!"
I went on explaining that even if that would happen, that would not change the fact that the Governing Body did not believe it anymore; they themselves had thrown in the towel. And that for all practical purposes the generation had passed away, it was simply a false prophecy.
A few minutes later, he was an X-Dub.
Neo
just seen on the british news a commemoration of the soldiers who fought in wwi.. the generation has by no means passed away.
there are 23 old british soldiers remaining, although sadly only 4 were able to attend the commemoration at the cenotaph.
the youngest is still only 104.. so there is hope yet that the prophecy may still be fullfilled.. has to be quick though boys !!.
I was once trying to convince a dub that the WT was guilty of false prophecy. At one point, I showed the now classical change in the Awake's masthead:
Before November 1995:
Why AWAKE! Is Published ...Most important, this
just seen on the british news a commemoration of the soldiers who fought in wwi.. the generation has by no means passed away.
there are 23 old british soldiers remaining, although sadly only 4 were able to attend the commemoration at the cenotaph.
the youngest is still only 104.. so there is hope yet that the prophecy may still be fullfilled.. has to be quick though boys !!.
I was once trying to convince a dub that the WT was guilty of false prophecy. At one point, I showed the now classical change in the Awake's masthead:
Before November 1995:
Why AWAKE! Is Published ...Most important, this
just seen on the british news a commemoration of the soldiers who fought in wwi.. the generation has by no means passed away.
there are 23 old british soldiers remaining, although sadly only 4 were able to attend the commemoration at the cenotaph.
the youngest is still only 104.. so there is hope yet that the prophecy may still be fullfilled.. has to be quick though boys !!.
http://www.geocities.com/paulblizard/dwelling.html
this link was posted by neon madman in another thread (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/76073/1.ashx), but i think it is worthy of its own thread.
i read part of the manual and it really made me laugh!
Thank you for pointing that out, Narkissos!
Actually, the links to the chapters in Branch Office Procedures are incorrectly linked, but they would only point you to the same address further down the page.
As to Kent's site, the links are kind of messed up: the chapters are out of order and some links point to other articles outside the Manual. I believe he's so busy he gets a bit disorganized. But he is doing an invaluable job.
Neo
as i wrote in jwd i sent my da letter and am now officially out.
since i have moved they have announced it in my current home congregation where nobody has ever heard of me.
but now i have been told that they usually inform the boe of all the congregations you have ever attended and those decide if they announce it there as well.. do you have any information on this?
Sometimes they announce your name in other congregations around your area if you were a well-known member of the Witness community. (WT Love in action)
Neo
(my introductory thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/76140/1.ashx)
are we, as ex-jw's or clandestine fake witnesses gaining the advantage in familial and social relations?.
while many of you still suffer from watchtower-dictated isolation, i feel that generally, the advantage is shifting our way.. there's light at the end of the tunnel.
i offer this opinion based on observation of my extended family and many comments.
Excellent analysis.
The most powerful factor causing this shift continues to be the unimpeded disaffiliation of Witness kids.
"Mass exodus" is of course an expression that cannot be applied to the organization as a whole, but it could describe what's happening among the kids and teens in the borg. Too many just disappear in their mid twenties!
And they end up being the ones who introduce "Satan's world" to the older ones when they bring their "worldly" boy/girlfriends home for a visit and do some other stuff that young people do. These little things are the ones that are bringing change to the organization, very slowly.
Assimilation is truly the word.
Neo
(my introductory thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/76140/1.ashx)
hi all posters!!
this is my first post on the forum so i just would like to drop a hi and introduce myself!
i'm an xjw doing the fade (like so many are doing nowadays).
Nocturne:
Now that I have seen your avatar, I can judge that you did like the Matrix movie, didn't you?
Angharad:
Thank you too for making me feel welcome in the Board!
kls:
Well Neo since it sounds like you are staying i will have to announce that,,,,,,,,HEY LADIES WE GOT FRESH MEAT!I think a couple of years ago only men would use this expression... ...nope! So many girls, so little time... Neo
i was on ebay the other day and i saw a bethel family manual.
then i went back to look for it and it is gone.
has anyone a copy of this or know where i could get my grubby paws on one?.
Wait, this is just the beginning!!
Dwelling Together in Unity is only one of Bethel's Talmuds. They also have the Branch Office Procedures with additional "1,177 policies and regulations"!
We serve not only Jehovah God but we are under our 'mother' (the organization). Our 'mother' has the right to make rules and regulations for us... This book, entitled Branch Organization Procedure, contains 28 subjects; and its sub-sections involve regulations and administration. In it there are 1,177 policies and regulations...this is an improved, fine-tuned organization, and we are expected to follow its policies. If there are some who feel that they cannot subject themselves to the rules and regulations now in operation, such ones ought to be leaving and not be involved here in the further progressive work. (Albert Schroeder, speaking to elders of the Bethel family on May 29, 1980) source: http://www.freeminds.org/history/whathapp.htmAnd you can read a lot about what's inside the book right HERE! Neo (I just posted this in a similar thread. )