Cerise posting about going to vote versus yet another thread on yet another beheading.
He mentioned my name! He likes me, he really likes me!
Wait a minute, you're just trying to get the *good* beer ain't ya? I'm onto you boy...
so, even after we agree there is too much politics, some here have decided to keep going over the same bullshit time after time.
stuff they have no control over.
stuff that pisses people off at one another.
Cerise posting about going to vote versus yet another thread on yet another beheading.
He mentioned my name! He likes me, he really likes me!
Wait a minute, you're just trying to get the *good* beer ain't ya? I'm onto you boy...
and while i know he's tired of political crap, i'm hoping it'll be okay to post that i voted for the first time in 14 years today.
(canada's election day is today.).
my polling station was in a church.
Well we have nothing as exciting as Bush and Kerry and their kids' boobies, but we do okay.
Actually it's all just prep until the US annexes us and we get better food in our grocery stores.
Cerise of the I want Cheezits class
edited because I suck at typing and grammar today
here's a truly weird flash animation demo of "how to use magazine covers".
this is waaaay too bizarre... if anyone is good with shockwave or flash they should do a parody (although the self-parodying nature of this is too much!)..
http://www.mckennabookcovers.com/first_page.html
Okay were those people witnessing to the cat? That was the only response they got.
As for the song, I think I stared at the screen for a full minute in abject horror. I had to put the flash on again so I could see what I missed (not much).
edited to add boyfriends comments: (Note, he's never been to a KH, never really had a concept of JWs except what I've told him. I sent him the link cold...no build up, no explanations.) He said:"Excuse me while I choke on my own saliva. What the hell was that?"
ROFL
i will probably have a cook out with my kids and play volley ball.
what special plan's do you all have?
please have a safe and great holiday and to all that are going to be alone,i do think of you and wish you could join me, it would be my pleasure.
The online role play game my honey and I help administrate is having it's 2 year anniversary. We both missed the last one because of family issues. So we're gonna hunker down like lil computer geeks and spend it with our online friends.
and while i know he's tired of political crap, i'm hoping it'll be okay to post that i voted for the first time in 14 years today.
(canada's election day is today.).
my polling station was in a church.
and while I know he's tired of political crap, I'm hoping it'll be okay to post that I voted for the first time in 14 years today. (Canada's election day is today.)
My polling station was in a church. The holy trinity church.
If they didn't think me apostate before...wheeeee! :)
Anyway, nothing earth shattering, just wanted to share my one step farther away from control, one step closer to freedom. :)
i didn't have a clue to these issues below.
i was surprised after 20 years in the wtbts to find out that...... 587bce and not 607bce <--- not a clue about this.. 1874 was taught until 1929 as the date jesus took rule in heaven <------ actually i did read this once and surpressed it due to my great faith in the org.. that jesus is the mediator of all men (and women) .
that the great crowd of rev is in the temple (naos) <--- they are in heaven, scripturally speaking.
I asked my study conductor about the 586 BC date that I kept coming across in 'worldly' publications. She said that they were wrong.
I was vulnerable and lonely and the rest made so much sense (*pukes*) that I glossed over it. She said something like how wouldn't Jehovah know better than worldly writers who had a hidden agenda in their writings? (!!!) And didn't I believe it was Jehovah's organization and if that was the case, wouldn't he make sure that we had all the right info? (Boy, I guess that's true...if it were right, it would be right...unfortunately they're not right.)
*sigh*
wrong or right?.
right to choose, or murder?.
what is everyones point of view?.
I could never abort my own baby...however I say that while not facing a pregnancy that is risky to myself, or would end in death to the child anyway, etc. So sitting from where I am, for myself, it's pretty clear, but that could change based on circumstances. What I could never do, is allow someone else to make that decision for me. That's the point of choice...not that the choice is always to abort, but that there's the freedom to look at options.
I'm not trying to throw a lot of extraneous information in here, but to parallel...what people forget is that prostitution, whether legal or not, happens. Abortion, legal or not, happens. Drug use, legal or not, happens. Not to be extremely liberal here, at least the difference when you legalize such things, is that you have a measure of control and offer safety to those involved. (i.e. we have a safe needle clinic in my city, to ensure that the people who are 'partaking' of illegal substances will not contract diseases from dirty needles.) Abortion clinics, while I personally don't like that they exist, are a much better alternative to a knitting needle, bleeding out, etc.
In a perfect world, there would be no need for abortion or measures around drugs/prostitution etc., because everyone would be educated, and be able to have access to the proper safety measures, birth control, etc. Right now that's not the case, so why penalize those who grow up disadvantaged, uneducated, abused etc. Why perpetuate the cycle?
My 2 cents. Actually more like 4.
so...are you gonna vote?
funny story: a few months ago my friend and i were driving down the street.
i saw a "sister" walking so i told my friend to pull over and give her a ride.
Thanks for link back Talesin...I'd remembered another topic on Cdn. politics but I couldn't remember whose it was, so couldn't pull it up.
I've had a look at the article...an interesting slant and some good points he makes. I'll be reading more now. :)
the following is from a previous post.
i post it here again for new persons who may be wondering where else is there to go besides the wt organization.. to where shall i go?
this is a question that many jws seem to have when they are contemplating leaving the wt society.
SwampThing you asked...
1) For those raised by parents who were/are JW?s, and this religion is all you have ever known, the fact that you visit this site and are unhappy with the JW religion begs the question: why do you not just walk away from it?
2) For those who came to the JW religion as adults, is it possible that your personalities were such that you were the type of person who needed to be told what to do?
While I fall into category #2, I can address both. For those in circumstance #1, the shunning rule where a person will be separated from family, lifelong friends, spouse, kids, etc. is sometimes the greatest motivation to stay. Who wants to lose their family over a religion that isn't correct anyway?
For myself, I was vulnerable and the time when I was initially contacted, was going through a time in my life where I couldn't make decisions myself. Prior to that I was able to think for myself, and was actually quite stubbornly opinionated. I did question some of the doctrines I learned, but was lonely and needed the friendship, and was willing to take some of it on faith. Also remember that JWs are trained to seek out the vulnerable, and to sell them with strong persuasion and cult-like tactics.
It took both of my parents dying and for everyone to treat me like crap over it for me to realize just how controlling and rigid it was. And when I started thinking for myself, that was when I could break free. So while it may be true for some that they need to be told what to do, for myself, I was constantly in conflict because I didn't LIKE being told what to do.
As for 'where I go now,' precisely nowhere. I don't need to deal with religion until I'm sure of my own ability to think and discern and cut through the bs. I would only want to worship a God that is kind, loving and forgiving, so if I'm screwing up by not doing so now, I trust that I'll be treated lovingly if and when I get there. If not, I've lost nothing, by being true to myself at last.
My 2 cents.
so...are you gonna vote?
funny story: a few months ago my friend and i were driving down the street.
i saw a "sister" walking so i told my friend to pull over and give her a ride.
I have no idea. I like Paul Martin, but I don't necessarily like his party's politics (I think I like Paul because he was opposed to Chretien, like me...hehe). Their track record is less than impressive.
Steven Harper scares the bejeesus outta me...and I think that he waffles too much on issues like gay rights/women's rights etc. (says one thing to our faces now, believes and will act on a totally different thing behind out backs/once elected). And WHAT IS UP WITH THAT HAIR? It's like my plastic headed "Ken" doll from the 70's. Come on man, take $12 outta the campaign contributions and get to a Fantastic Sams already...(yeah, okay, I know hair doth not a good politician make, however, if elected he becomes a visible symbol/face of all Canadians...and I SO don't look like that).
Jack Layton seems to be the everyman's man, and I particularly like his social stance on health and child care. However, the party hasn't a hope in hell of actually making it in, so voting for him feels like a vote down the toilet. (All in all, I'll probably vote for him, so that when whoever -is- voted in screws up, I can say that I had nothing to do with voting them into power...)
[rant] And now one of my pet peeves about this country...Bloc Quebecois. I live in BC, a province that taxes its dwellers between 50.5 and 52.5% annually so we can subsidize Quebec and their unstable economy (I've seen the reports from the Feds on where my tax dollars go...pretty much right into the pockets of Quebec). Does the dood running for this party even KNOW where BC is? I mean, honestly. Speaking in gross generalities, BCers (and western Canadians) on the whole have little care if Quebec leaves or stays: Just make up your fricken minds already! I have been hearing about this 'issue' since I was born, and I'm over 30 now. They've had referendum after referendum and guess what? The voters said stay. I have an idea, if some in that party dislike it here soooo much, head on 'home' to France. (Yes, that's a very typical pat answer from a Westerner on this non-issue in the minds of a good half of the country...)
I was forced to learn French (which is fine for the cereal boxes it's printed on that I might have turned that way at the breakfast table, or the one or two cute phrases I can chuck back and forth with my bf...I know about the same amount of Spanish, Italian, and German and didn't have it shoved down my throat). I understand that students in Quebec (at least at the time I was in school) did not have the same mandate to learn English (needing to preserve the mother tongue and all that). It's not that I dislike French (it just has no real impact on my life here in the west), or French people, or Quebecers (sp?). But the party that is pushing for this is making a mountain out of a molehill...Westerners might as well be dog crap under Ottawa's shoes for the attention given (unless we have rampant forest fires or natural disasters, or we manage to land the 2010 olympics...then we're no longer the bastard step-child), and yet Ottawa bends over backwards to keep Quebec from 'leaving'. And through it all, this party whines about how 'bad' they have it, and how their rights and freedoms and life would be so much better if Ottawa wasn't involved in it. [/rant]
I wonder what would happen if the rest of the country got to vote on the separatist issue.
What I'd really like to know is when the US is gonna come and annex us already. I want more Hershey products and Cheezits in my stores!
P.S. Wow. It feels neat to be able to spew my feelings about politics out there and know that someone may disagree, and that it's okay. What a freedom!