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AngryXJW
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Lobby BBCAmerica To Air Panorama!!!
by AngryXJW inbbcamerica has a page where one can submit requests for specific programs:______.
http://www.bbcamerica.com/about/contactus_email.jsp.
i have no clue whether this is intended for "other programs" aired by "other bbc affiliates", but it would seem to be worth 5 minutes for everyone to take the time to fill out a request that "suffer the little chidren" be aired on bbcamerica.
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Lobby BBCAmerica To Air Panorama!!!
by AngryXJW inbbcamerica has a page where one can submit requests for specific programs:______.
http://www.bbcamerica.com/about/contactus_email.jsp.
i have no clue whether this is intended for "other programs" aired by "other bbc affiliates", but it would seem to be worth 5 minutes for everyone to take the time to fill out a request that "suffer the little chidren" be aired on bbcamerica.
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AngryXJW
Just a note. The posted BBCAmerica page asks for some personal inf._____You DO NOT have to fill all of it out for your message to be accepted. Fill out as little as you want, and it will prompt you back if not enough._____Thanks to those above for involving themselves with this effort, but where are all the other "theoritical" 6000 members???
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Lobby BBCAmerica To Air Panorama!!!
by AngryXJW inbbcamerica has a page where one can submit requests for specific programs:______.
http://www.bbcamerica.com/about/contactus_email.jsp.
i have no clue whether this is intended for "other programs" aired by "other bbc affiliates", but it would seem to be worth 5 minutes for everyone to take the time to fill out a request that "suffer the little chidren" be aired on bbcamerica.
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AngryXJW
BBCAmerica has a page where one can submit requests for specific programs:______
http://www.bbcamerica.com/about/contactus_email.jsp
I have no clue whether this is intended for "other programs" aired by "other BBC affiliates", but it would seem to be worth 5 minutes for everyone to take the time to fill out a request that "Suffer The Little Chidren" be aired on BBCAmerica. Here is the URL to include as a reference:_______
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/audiovideo/programmes/panorama/newsid_2114000/2114320.stm
This would give the American public another shot and another viewpoint on this subject.
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Was Russell a freemason and an adventist?
by wholewheat inwas russell a freemason and was he a member of the adventist church?
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AngryXJW
Jan:_____
At risk of employing the very (lack of) evidence and reason which I have condemned, let me explain why it is "my opinion" that the eye/pyramid is "connected somwhow/somewhere" with FreeMasonry.________
Admittedly, "the connection" is constantly repeated by "conspiracy theorists". However, every proposition "conspiracy theorists" put forth is not false merely by association.______
I assume the referred "Chasson link" is to ONE OF SEVERAL FREEMASONRY webpages which post the identical article which denies such "connection". The arguments are very persuasive. However, it admits that Benamin Franklin (who was probably the most influential person on the design committee) was a Freemason. The article also fails to consider that the committee's designs had to be approved by politicians who "possibly" were Freemasons. Additionally, there is no way of knowing what influence freemasons could have had behind the scenes.______
I obviously do not believe there has ever been a "world domination" conspiracy, but I have had significant exposure in the business and political worlds to know that fraternities such as Freemasons, Knights of Pythias, Knights of Columbus, etc. all use their influence to help their fellow members succeed in life._____
I believe that it was this past weekend that the HISTORY CHANNEL ran a program on Freemasonry. I only caught part of it while channel surfing, but it mentioned the eye/pyramid as having freemasonry connections. The program also mentioned the large influence that Freemasonry had in the US in colonial days. Again, General/Pres George Washington was an avid Freemason, and "it was the thing to do" for his army officers to also join. The program even mentioned an incident where a captured American was in the process of being executed until he "flashed a secret Freemasonry signal" and the British officers stopped the execution. Also, again, Washington performed a Freemasonry dedication at the laying of the cornerstone of the US CAPITOL building. Washington's Monument shows similar masonry/egyptian imagery. Many of the prominent politicians in colonial America were FM, with many others suspected of such._______
Then there is the question why a "pyramid" would be used as a symbol standing for anything in colonial America? The cited article even denies that pyramids are freemasonry imagery. It says that such were picked up by the freemasons after the fact. Maybe it wasn't until such imagery became public that freemasons felt comfortable using such in public??? Maybe the article "protests too much"?______
I do know that I have dead relatives (who were FM) who believed that the dollar bill symbols were masonic in origin. And, as related earlier, I have had enough exposure to Freemasons in the business and political worlds to know that they are sneeky and sly enough to have pulled this off if they had so desired, especially in a day and time when Freemasons were at their peak in American society._______
Bear in mind, that there is some truth in the things said about this "secret society"- enough to generate the "over-board" world domination conspiracy theory.
Edited by - AngryXJW on 5 July 2002 12:55:22
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Two file sex abuse suit against Jehovah's Witnesse
by TexSham ini looked and didn't see this posted, so here goes:.
http://www.twincities.com/mld/pioneerpress/3588212.htm.
posted on tue, jul.
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AngryXJW
For those who had a life today.
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Boston channel 7 story transcript
by coffee_black inhttp://www.whdh.com/features/articles/specialreport/h56/ .
short but fairly good.
they listed the 800-why-1914 helpline number on the website too., they edited out the name of jehovah's witnesses, but it's pretty obvious that's who we're talking about.. cb
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AngryXJW
EXCELLENT_________Why is this on page 3?
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Was Russell a freemason and an adventist?
by wholewheat inwas russell a freemason and was he a member of the adventist church?
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AngryXJW
Jan:__________
I'm not sure whether you understood what I was saying, or even whether are agreeing or disageeing, BUT I TOO consider CTR, the WTS, and JWs to be SECOND ADVENTISTS, thus being an offshoot of the Millerite movement._______
However, saying CTR was "heavily influenced" by the SAs is somewhat misleading, since CTR WAS a SA.______
CTR and his family were baptized in the "endtime year" of 1874 by either Storrs or Stetson, his teachings were a compilation of Advent Christian Church and the Life and Advent Union (and deviations thereof) as taught by Wendell, Stetson, Storrs, Barbour, Paton, etc., and CTR's early followers were those SAs who still stayed on after the failed SA prophecies of 1873/4 and 1878.______
Russell taught that the Millerite Movement fulfilled prophecy and paved the way for the WTS's work. Thus, as far as I'm concerned, any mention of the WTS's history and failed prophecies should always include the history and failed prophecies of the Millerites and the SAs in the intervening years.
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Was Russell a freemason and an adventist?
by wholewheat inwas russell a freemason and was he a member of the adventist church?
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AngryXJW
PlumCrazy:
-----------As much as I appreciate your efforts in countering these Illuminati/FreeMasonry Conspiracy Theorists, whom I believe know better but are so dishonest as to try to hurt the WTS by INTENTIONALLY SPREADING LIES, there are a number of inaccuracies in your last post on page 3.
----------There is no particular evidence that C T Russell was "influenced or fascinated with FreeMasons" than he would have been by any other social, political, religious, or similar organzation in his day. Various posters, on a number of previous occasions, have posted several quotes by CTR, in which he made various negative comments about "FreeMasonry".
---------The ALLEGED "FreeMasonry iconography" used by CTR IS NOT "FreeMasonry iconography". It is "Egyptian iconography" which relates to CTR's PYRAMID beliefs and teachings. It sounds as if you have not done much reading on this topic, otherwise you WOULD HAVE DOUBTS as to CTR's connection with FreeMasonry.
---------As to your statement that CTR was "influenced by Adventists", but did not hold to their beliefs, that is also WRONG! CTR and the WTS were natural extensions of the Second Adventist Movement, with JWs being equal torchbearers with the SDAs.
---------As for "FreeMasonry", it acknowledgely was an extremely strong influence in the early days of the United States. The first US President George Washington was a FreeMasonry, as were many of the prominent revolutionists. Washington even performed a FreeMason dedication ceremony at the laying of the cornerstone of the US Capitol building. The Washington Monument in D.C. is considered to be "Freemasonry icoography" (as well as Egyptian). The "pyramid with seeing eye capstone" on the back of the dollar bill is "Freemasonry icoography" (as well as Egyptian).
---------However, by the latter part of the 19th century, American FreeMasonry actually fell into public disfavor, with a number of anti-masons newspapers being formed, and even an anti-mason political party. Many members quit, and Lodges all over the US were disbanded. Today, the average age of an American Mason is around 70 years old.
----------Its a shame that some people here are actually HELPING THE WTS by promoting ludicrous conspiracy theories, which the WTS then uses to paint "apostates" as a bunch of NUTS WHO WILL STOOP TO ANY LEVEL OF LYING DECEIT to tarnish "God's people".
----------It's admirable that you are one of the few here that stands up to these assholes who not only detract from genuine issues, but actually harm our efforts. The people here who NEVER stand up in these threads bear responsibility for their silence.
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Teen wins fight to refuse blood transfusions
by blondie inhttp://www.cbc.ca/stories/2002/07/02/mia020702
cbc news.
teen wins fight to refuse blood transfusions .
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AngryXJW
I'm surprised noone has commented on this propaganda ploy put forward by "Goebels":
The girl's lawyer, David Gnam, said his client is relieved she can now direct her own medical treatment. But he questioned what might have happened had her wishes been followed in the first place.
"She had different options that were available to her and were before other judges and were turned down," he said. "What if those had been acted upon? We'll never know the answer to that."
The WTS Propaganda Ministry is still trying to "spin" this story to make it seem like "non-blood" treatment could have possibly saved Bethany's life.
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Two file sex abuse suit against Jehovah's Witnesse
by TexSham ini looked and didn't see this posted, so here goes:.
http://www.twincities.com/mld/pioneerpress/3588212.htm.
posted on tue, jul.
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