Posts by Homeros

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Heavenly bliss

by Homeros in

the watchtower society on false hopes for life in heaven (the watchtower, june 1 1981 page 6):.

bliss in heaven sprawled out on a billowy cloud, twanging a harp as you float along in space and eternity?

it is not that vain and useless existence that idle dreamers have conjured up as heavenly life.".

Homeros

The Watchtower Society on false hopes for life in heaven (The Watchtower, June 1 1981 page 6):

" And what is that? Bliss in heaven sprawled out on a billowy cloud, twanging a harp as you float along in space and eternity? No! It is not that vain and useless existence that idle dreamers have conjured up as heavenly life. "

The Watchtower Society on life in Paradise on earth (God's Kingdom of a thousand years has approached, page 162):

" With melodious voices and all their musical skills that they have developed they will gratefully praise Him. They will forever join the heavenly throngs in responding to the enthusiastic call of the last one of the inspired Psalms:

38 "Praise Jah, you people! Praise God in his holy place. Praise him in the expanse of his strength. Praise him for his works of mightiness. Praise him according to the abundance of his greatness. Praise him with the blowing of the horn. Praise him with the stringed instrument and the harp. Praise him with the tambourine and the circle dance. Praise him with strings and the pipe. Praise him with the cymbals of melodious sound. Praise him with the clashing cymbals. Every breathing thing-let it praise Jah. Praise Jah, you people!"-Psalm 150:1-6."

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Is this Web site a joke?

by Quotes in

no, not *this* web site.

we all know that jwd is not a joke.

i mean this one: http://watchtower.virtue.nu/index_en.htm.

Homeros

For "interested persons":

http://www.artpolitic.org/infopedia/bl/Black_propaganda.html

http://www.seftondelmer.co.uk/contents.htm

Reading about Sefton Delmer gave me the idea for the website.

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Is this Web site a joke?

by Quotes in

no, not *this* web site.

we all know that jwd is not a joke.

i mean this one: http://watchtower.virtue.nu/index_en.htm.

Homeros

About blowing my cover: please do not write congratulatory entries in the guest-book! For the rest I'm not too pessimistic. After all, what loyal JW would visit an apostate discussion forum like this?!

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Is this Web site a joke?

by Quotes in

no, not *this* web site.

we all know that jwd is not a joke.

i mean this one: http://watchtower.virtue.nu/index_en.htm.

Homeros

Thank you for the compliments. It was quite amusing to see the reactions, and in fact I am a little surprised it took so long before ideas like this emerged. When writing some of the 'refutations' I wondered: "How far can you go before it is too obvious?" And guess what: in the guestbook are even entries by JWs thanking me for the material presented at the website. They even used my refutations in the field-service! I translated some Dutch entries: "Some allegations I also encountered when preaching. Of course I knew they could not be true, but I did not know how to respond. Thanks for your good work".
Another one: "Thank you for the messages you deal with here. These are bottle-necks indeed that are raised every now and then and then I do not know how to respond. By treating these issues we are better capable to answer the public and let their doubts flow away that way. Perhaps many can be found that way".

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Is this Web site a joke?

by Quotes in

no, not *this* web site.

we all know that jwd is not a joke.

i mean this one: http://watchtower.virtue.nu/index_en.htm.

Homeros

As webmaster of the mentioned site (http://watchtower.virtue.nu) I can only ask: did anyone hear of Gustav Siegfried Eins?

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Has anyone read Diane Wilson's book, "Awakening of a Jehovah's Witness"?

by carefully faded in

jw
friends

today, i just received diane wilson's book, "awakening of a jehovah's witness".

i cracked it open tonight and in reading the first page, found something that makes me question her authenticity.

she states, "in my 22 years as one of jehovah's witnesses, i had attained the position of "traveling overseer" both in the united states and brazil.

Homeros

Yes, I've read the book. I think it adds nothing to the vast amount of anti- or ex-JW books. It's just another "it-was-not-my-fault-because-I-was-brainwashed"-story. Although the cover promises never-before covered (women's) issues, it thoroughly disappoints on new insights on JWs, both on the personal as the doctrinal side of it. It has but one goal, stated right at the beginning: "The public needs to be warned".

The story is very, very boring and completely subjective (nothing wrong about it, but hardly useful for getting a trustworthy picture of the JW-community) and contradicts itself in many ways. It also contradicts my own experience within it (I am now an ex-JW). I don't mean Diane Wilson is dishonest, I think her high-strung emotions blurred the picture here and there. Her experience is certainly a sad one (especially her account of the disfellowshipment of her daughter), but the story is not balanced and even quite superficial.

Interesting aspect in her story is the position of her psychiatrist. Publisher's weekly remarks on this: [she] " seems to have transferred the near-divine authority that she once vested in her church to her therapist, whose words are sometimes reprinted here in boldface."