you believe that the party who will not feel the pain of labor or be subject to its risks ought to have some sort of say in a decision as to whether another person will go through labor and its risks.
Yes, they should be involved with the decision. A considerate person would take to heart the feelings of the person they "buddied" up with to create a life.
Why should a man have any say as to what risks and pain a woman will experience?
Because they both consented to perform an act that may result in a human life that belongs to both of them. I don't buy the school of thought that because a woman bears all the burden of child birth that she is also entitled to determine the fate of the child without at least taking to heart the input of the other parent. If she didn't want to bother with the opinion of another person, then she should have stuck with either masturbation or artificial insemination.
Is that the reward for the irresponsible male; power over another's body?
Why is it always the "irresponsible male" and not the "irresponsible couple" in your posts? Again, you seem to think the woman is completely free of blame and/or responsibility. Is this because you are extremely left wing, or do you just hate men? It's hard to tell, being that my gray matter is decomposing so fast. And I have never stated that he should have any power over her or her body, only input (and as much input as he feels necessary to convey his point since he does have no actual power.)
But your response is consistent with the macho man mentality of your earlier post.
Well that's probably the first time I have ever been thrown in the "macho man" category. Who woulda thought? And I don't even like beer!!
I won't respond to your personal attacks with the same. I only called you a name in my initial response to you because I was appalled that you would come on to a thread where a man was concerned about the life of his child and immediately post that he was irresponsible and it was his fault that an abortion was necessary. A quote follows.
the situation is entirely your fault. Hopefully you'll learn from this mistake and become more responsible in the future.
In all my posts I have tried to clearly state my opinion on the matter, whereas you have relied on personal attacks and insults, trying to stir up typical anti-male emotions by using buzzwords such as "chauvinist", "neanderthal", "old school", etc, etc. You have even gone so far as to incorrectly state my views (example below) on things to correlate the false tags you have given. Very poor taste.
You are from the old school of thought, where women were nothing but chattel. Your neanderthal view is that men should be able to impose their will on women, notwithstanding the fact that such will is likely to impose a great deal of pain and even the risk of death on the woman. You and your fascist right wing bible thumper ilk...
Good day, indeed!
