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  apostate questions

  by stevenyc in

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  2. beliefs

  after reading alanf?s biography

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/86609/1.ashx

  something was niggling at me.

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  And?????
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  Archaeologists in Ethiopia discover 12 fossils around 4 million years old

  by hawkaw in

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  2. friends

  http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsarticle.jhtml?type=sciencenews&storyid=7815576&section=news&src=rss/uk/sciencenews

  ethiopia archaeologists make important fossil find sat mar 5, 2005 12:03 pm gmt

  addis ababa (reuters) - archaeologists studying human origins in eastern ethiopia have discovered 12 fossils that appear to be older than the famous fossil "lucy," the team leader said on saturday.

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  Very interesting thread. Thanks for posting the links hawkaw
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  Wisc. Hunter Wants Open Season for Cats

  by unbeliever in

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  2. friends

  http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=519&e=26&u=/ap/20050307/ap_on_re_us/hunting_cats

  madison, wis. - hunter mark smith welcomes wild birds on to his property, but if he sees a cat, he thinks the "invasive" animal should be considered fair game.

  the 48-year-old firefighter from la crosse has proposed that hunters in wisconsin make free-roaming domestic cats an "unprotected species" that could be shot at will by anyone with a small-game license.

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  I know of many people who have no qualms about taking out a wild cat while out hunting. In rural areas noone takes the time or the money to neuter cats. They either drown them as babies or shoot them later. Thats just the way it is. Same with dogs, if they wont stay around on the farm where they belong they are shot.
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  Quotes by Thiele concerning Watchtower Chronology

  by VM44 in

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  2. bible

  does anyone know where is is documented that thiele made the following quotes?

  as bible scholar e. r. thiele said about a watchtower article on chronology, "it reminds me of the way an unscrupulous lawyer would deal with facts in order to support a case he knows not to be sound.

  http://www.geocities.com/athens/academy/6040/kc.htm

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  Alan said about scholar:

  You won't find a single reader who accepts your lies.

  AlanF

  But Alan, I accept them.

  As coming from someone who is delusional.

  Scholar realizes if he accepts he is actually wrong he will end up in the same company as you. And THAT scares the hell out of him.

  Tor
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  New brother in here!

  by defd in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey yall just wanted to say hi.

  today is my 1st day here.

  i hope this is a good site for jehovahs people.

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  maybe newbies only have a 50 post limit for starters.
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  Who Do You Think Really Knows That The Organization Is BullCrap???

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you think the governing body really knows it??

  the lawyers??

  the average elder or ministerial servant?

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  Alan, Youre discription of Jaraz reminds me of the disposition of our CO when I met with him. I was horrified and I seen my life flash before my eyes. He flipped from Mr. Nice to A**hole in about a fifth of a second. I wouldnt have believed it if I hadnt been there and seen it with my own two eyes. It was this encounter that crystallized in my mind something was very very wrong in JWland. Toreador
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  Babylonian Business Records

  by VM44 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have read that thousands of babylonian business records exist on clay tablets, and that these alone provide proof that the year 607bce is not what the watchtower claims it is.. since business is conducted on a day to day basis, these records should provide a continuous record of each babylonian kings reign.

  is there a summary of the babylonian business records?

  in particular, a timeline showing the number of business tables in existence corresponding to various kings and dates within a king/s reign?.

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  Hillary, I would like to see the quote you said you had about ' only the metally challenged may be given some leeway. Thanks, Tor
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  speaking of jews...

  by in a new york bethel minute in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am pretty sure there are many different (excuse my layman) "denominations" of judaism, but what typically is the hope of a jewish person?

  do they believe they are going to heaven?

  do they believe in a paradise earth?

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  Michael Jackson's Secret Childhood on Saturday 1:30 afternoon

  by Dogpatch in

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  next vh1 mj saturday feb 12th @ 1:30 afternoon

  1:30 pm .

  vh1 news presents

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  I believe I watched the program you mentioned about a wweek ago. It was quite interesting. Bill Bowen was on there as well in the expose. Quite a nice job in showing the witness mentality and the struggle Michael had in growing up a JW and being a star. TOr
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  The Sneaky Governing Body and How They Steer a DF'ing Committee

  by frankiespeakin in

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  2. friends

  i was envolved about 16 years ago in a committee that sole purpose was to disfellowship a respected member of the congregation for being an apostate.

  we recieved information from the wt legal department and co and do on how to proceed.

  often the co and do would meet with us individually to sort of direct the process.

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  I have heard "Cirenko" (spelling) speak when he was a DO. He seemed nice on the platform but thats all a front to how they are in real life or when they think they have an apostate on their hands. They turn into a wolf real quick. Tor