Posts by AlanF

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Much fuss about nothing?

by Norm in

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hey all,.

having been around the internet for about 7 years now and spent many years on h2o i have observed the activity of fred hall and you know both there and here.

people are of course free to do whatever they want, but personally i don't understand why anybody will bother with these two "village idiots".. why not ignore them completely.

AlanF

You're absolutely right, Norm. But sometimes I just can't help myself!

AlanF

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The "Tree" of WHAT?

by Farkel in

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the account of adam and eve as a literal event is so full of logical contradictions that it is mind-boggling.

it only takes a minimum of scrutiny to discover that fact, too.. there is something god did not want adam and eve to know.

he didnt want them to know the difference between good and evil.

Adoption by Jehovah's Witnesses is blocked

by expatbrit in

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adoption by jehovah's witnesses is blocked .

the independent - united kingdom; may 26, 2001. by brian farmer.

a couple originally approved by a council as adoptive parents have been refused permission by social workers to adopt a child, because they are jehovah's witnesses.

It's pretty obvious from your comments that, while your father isn't a JW, you are. As such, you have not understood what the objections of JW critics to the blood transfusion ban are. Likely, you only go on what the Watchtower Society has told you, which a bit of research will show you, is grossly biased and misrepresents a great number of things.

Very few people I know of don't know that bloodless surgery, or using a minimum amount of blood in surgery, is a good thing. But there are certain situations, usually involving trauma, where there is simply no alternative to a transfusion of, say, red cells. The Watchtower is dishonest because it almost NEVER deals with such traumatic medical situations when it discusses the stand of JWs on blood. The recent blood video made for the medical community is a case in point: not a single word is said about what a doctor should do about massive blood loss in a JW patient.

In short, the Watchtower presents a strawman argument to the medical community about bloodless surgery.

In a larger view, the Watchtower is simply wrong when it claims that the Bible prohibits blood transfusions. The Bible says nothing about the subject, so anything that someone infers from scriptures like Genesis 9:4 and Acts 15 is just that -- an inference. And we all know how many wrong inferences the Watchtower has made over the decades.

Critics of the JW stance on blood are not generally overtly in favor of using blood therapy, nor are they against it, any more than they're personally in favor of or against any other medical treatments. What critics are most concerned with is the fact that JW leaders do not allow JWs the freedom of conscience to make their own personal decisions about a potentially lifesaving treatment when the Bible itself is silent on the matter. I have no doubt that, in the long run, the Watchtower will abandon its current stand and make transfusions a "conscience matter", just as it did with taking vaccinations or having organ transplants.

For a solid refutation of the JW view on blood transfusions, take a look at http://www.jwbloodreview.org .

Anyone who is familiar with details of Watchtower policy on blood knows that it is arbitrary and inconsistent. Until one year ago a JW would have been disfellowshipped for taking a transfusion of red blood cells that had been processed into a more pure form of hemoglobin. Yet today, that kind of transfusion is allowed, because the Watchtower has informed Hospital Liaison Committees that products such as HemoPure are now allowed. HemoPure is nothing but cow blood that has been purified and had the hemoglobin concentrated. Can you explain why straight red cells are forbidden while processed red cells are permitted? Can you explain why just a year ago such products were declared to be such an offense against God that it resulted in disfellowshipping of unrepentant transfusees, yet by a simple policy change it is no longer against "God's law"? If you can, you're doing well because experience shows that not even the Watchtower can explain these things. All they can manage is some form of "this is our religious belief and you dasn't question it."

AlanF

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How Much for Vol.7 of "Studies in the Scri...

by Prisca in

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an amazing thing happened to me today.. i was in a neighbouring suburb, and wandered into a nondescript second-hand bookshop.

i asked where the religious books were, and the elderly shop-keeper pointed to the single shelf, stacked full with books.. amongst them was a faded red book entitled, "studies in the scriptures series 7 - the finished mystery".. i could not believe my luck.

here was a rare book, sitting innocently amongst books far younger than their companion.. i gingerly opened it up and browsed its contents.

AlanF

: when was the last time you check out your goofball kit?

I do every time I read one of your posts, Fridolin.

AlanF

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How Much for Vol.7 of "Studies in the Scri...

by Prisca in

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an amazing thing happened to me today.. i was in a neighbouring suburb, and wandered into a nondescript second-hand bookshop.

i asked where the religious books were, and the elderly shop-keeper pointed to the single shelf, stacked full with books.. amongst them was a faded red book entitled, "studies in the scriptures series 7 - the finished mystery".. i could not believe my luck.

here was a rare book, sitting innocently amongst books far younger than their companion.. i gingerly opened it up and browsed its contents.

AlanF

Volume 7 is valuable because it shows the lunatic mindset of the Rutherford group that took over the WTS after Russell's death. Of course, this lunacy spawned the lunatics that run today's WTS.

AlanF

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Humor from President Georgie

by AlanF in

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political food in due season from our fearless leader:.

(this is a poem made up entirely of actual quotes from george w. bush.

quotes have been arranged only for aesthetic purposes, by washington post.

AlanF

Damn! Had tears coming outta my eyes the whole time reading this.

AlanF

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Fark, looked all over for YK's "apology"

by Tallyman in

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...but can't seem to find it anywhere - for all those insults he hurled.. has your patience run out?.

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AlanF

Hey Kismet:

This is totally unrelated to this thread but here you and I are.

Did you find anything else about the Greenlees stuff we talked about some weeks ago? I've been waiting to hear from you. Email me if necessary at [email protected] .

AlanF

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Humor from President Georgie

by AlanF in

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political food in due season from our fearless leader:.

(this is a poem made up entirely of actual quotes from george w. bush.

quotes have been arranged only for aesthetic purposes, by washington post.

AlanF

Political food in due season from our Fearless Leader:

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(This is a poem made up entirely of actual quotes from George W. Bush. The
quotes have been arranged only for aesthetic purposes, by Washington Post
writer Richard Thompson. Too good not to share, especially during National
Poetry Month...)

MAKE THE PIE HIGHER
by George W. Bush

I think we all agree, the past is over.
This is still a dangerous world.
It's a world of madmen and uncertainty
and potential mental losses.

Rarely is the question asked
Is our children learning?
Will the highways of the Internet become more few?
How many hands have I shaked?

They misunderestimate me.
I am a pitbull on the pantleg of opportunity.
I know that the human being and the fish can coexist.
Families is where our nation finds hope, where our wings take dream.

Put food on your family!
Knock down the tollbooth!
Vulcanize Society!
Make the pie higher! Make the pie higher!
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AlanF

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