That always bothered me.. the 'sharing of imformation' from elders, especially when it went home to wives who were big mouth gossips in the congregation. Yeah, that definately gives you the feeling of being helped.
Posts by Sassy
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Did you recieve help?
by shamus indid you ask or recieve help from the elders?.
if so, were they helpful?
i did once... they're help was more troubling than not.
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Life(2)
by Paradise Found in.
"life is terrific, and i mean great".
"everything is great" .. "so good to be a live"
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Sassy
I'm pretty sure you aren't really a jackass Shamus.
I got the feeling this and the other thread were like the glass half full or glass half empty thought. Life is how we look at it. If we focus on positive even if there is not many things to be positive about, we will still feel happier.
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the society and education
by NewYork44M inexperience over the weekend.
just to clarify..... sad is the societys official acronym for special assembly day.
i attended yesterday at the brooklyn assembly hall with approximately 1,800 others.
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Sassy
I can't believe the young person they interviewed quit only one year from graduation. That will end up to be such a mistake. So close and now so far away. Stupid to quit early but she'll be praised now. I remember when I went back to school after being a housewife for many years, an elders wife said what a shame it was that I had to be there so long. She said maybe I could just take the needed courses for training and quit. Then Jeh would provide. Fortunately I was smarter than that and finished. Not so long later my ex and I split up. I sure was glad I had an education.
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Did you recieve help?
by shamus indid you ask or recieve help from the elders?.
if so, were they helpful?
i did once... they're help was more troubling than not.
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Sassy
I asked for help from the elders three times. First when I left my first husband after he committed adultry. I moved to a new hall and asked to talk with them, so they could understand what I was dealing with. They told me since my ex husband only admitted to me privately about the adultry, even though we divorced I must still respect his headship and obey him. Oh yes, that was encouraging. The next time I approached elders (new hall) about the problems I was having with my son hitting me when he lost his temper. They told him to apologize afterward. Never said that he shouldn't do it in the first place. The last and final time I approached them, was when my 2nd husband turned into a fraud for a green card. I tried to live with him any way, figuring that I made my bed and had to sleep in it (so to speak). But he was devious and lying to me and finally was so cruel and mean he was pushing me to suicidal tendancies, so I kicked him out and then contacted them to let them know. They made me take him back and said I married him and was stuck with him. There was never a phone call or anything to see if things were ok. I went to two meetings after that. One two months later and the memorial. No one ever bothered to check on me or see why I stopped going. Now I don't care. It all adds up to my reasons for quiting. There is supposed to be the identifying mark of love but finally I realize it isn't there. Three different sets of elders and none of them showed love.
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Need Help Finding a Tune
by Sentinel inthere is a song with the words in the body, (and it may even be part of the title) that goes like this:.
"where do we go from here, now that ....blah, blah, blah".. i remember some of the tune, a few of the words and that's it.
i cannot remember who sang it, etc.
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Sassy
my first thought had been an Alan Parson Project song as well. When I am looking for a song and have no idea all the words or the title or the artist, I simply put in yahoo search the words "lyrics (any words you do know are in the song)" and 99% of the time I find what I am looking for.
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Going through a painful Divorce
by caspian injust waiting for the final "decree absolute" to come through in the next 3 weeks or so.. but man why is it so hard, the final break.
i really need this to be over so i can finally get on with the rest of my life.. .
cas..feeling a little sorry for himself today.. feel free to offer any support or advice.
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Sassy
I remember a friend telling me when I got divorced that she read an article that talked about traumatic things that happen in our lives, death of loved one, loss of job, divorce, etc.. that one should try and refrain from making any major decisions for one year. (i.e., new marriage, new job, move, etc.)
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Yesterday we bought our Very First Christmas Tree!
by cruzanheart inwell, actually, i did, but with the blessings of the family.
it's fake (too many allergies in the house to risk a real one), pre-lit, and 7 feet tall.
i think it's going to be gorgeous.
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Sassy
Wow. So many here celebrating for the first time. Me too. I feel like a litte kid experiencing fun for the first time. My bday is next month too! I hope it is a wonderful one for you Nina, and everyone else too!
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Do u know any JW"s that have suicided?
by Rick Aust insorry if this is a sad question, but i know of 3 jw's that have suicided.
i haven't known any personally, but i was wondered if you know any or know of any jw's that have suiced?
and do you know the reason why?
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Sassy
I had a friend whose mother committed suicide. They had moved and when they did, got inactive. The husband ended up cheating on her and it was too much for her so she went in the garage as well and died that way with it all closed up and her there in the fumes. Her children had a funeral in the KH back in the old congregation since they never associated with one when they moved. Later the congregation elder body received a scolding for having had a 'memorial' service at the hall. At that time they still didn't think you could be considered approved by God under any circumstances of suicide. I had been close to the daughter and wanted to attend the service but was told by my mother in law (elders wife) that if I attended, my husband (ex now) would lose his priviledges and never advance... so in other words I was blackmailed into not going. I felt so bad about not being able to be there for my friend. I should have gone any way. But I played the good little JW. It turned out later, my father in law was the one who contacted the CO or Brooklyn or whoever to discipline the congregation for holding a service for someone how had commit suicide.
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Do u know any JW"s that have suicided?
by Rick Aust insorry if this is a sad question, but i know of 3 jw's that have suicided.
i haven't known any personally, but i was wondered if you know any or know of any jw's that have suiced?
and do you know the reason why?
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Sassy
quote by stillajwexelder
SNS -- I am so glad the suicide attempt was unsuccessful. If it is not too painful for you may I ask if you are feeling much better now or are you still dealing with issues. May I also ask how did the elders treat you after the suicide attempt -- if you have answered before can you direct me to the URL. Thanks.
Thanks stillajwexelder. I'm glad that it wasn't sucessful too. Yes I am better now and thoughts of suicide no longer even cross my mind. How did the elders take it then?? well they only heard about it because they pulled me into comittee meetings immediately and I got the feeling they thought it was only a feeble attempt for sympathy so I wouldn't get dfd. The thing is I really did try to kill myself. It was never a game or ploy. I decided to take whatever punishment they had for me and after it, reattempt it. That way no one could say that I did it to avoid punishment. But I did get help from a therapist which I was required to go to because of work and when they heard of my attempt. The therapist helped me so I decided no matter what they gave me, I wouldn't reattempt. I never felt the 'love' from the brothers. They barely noticed I existed before this sister tattled on me and then by the time I had my meetings, I had gotten into real trouble.. figuring I might as well go ahead and do whatever because I deserved to be dead any way. So I think they thought I was this really immoral stupid woman influenced by men. Even when I got my priviledges back there There never was any love or support from them and why I thought they'd be there for me when other problems came up. And that is in a huge way why I chose not to return. -
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Older ones here, what do you remember being told about 1975 ???
by run dont walk in.
i was just a little kid when the 1975 thing came about, didn't pay much attention to it, after it was over, my parents told me it was just some people being over anxious, and being about 8 at the time i believed it, now when you research you find some amazing articles.
what do you remember being told about 1975 as the year got closer ?
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Sassy
yes I remember that. My mom got pregnant early 75 and her and her closest sister friends were all stressing over here being pregnant just before the end and the "woe to the pregnant woman" scripture. Well she lost the baby and Armegeddon didn't come in 75 any way.