Posts by OrphanCrow

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This misquote makes my blood boil! (Excuse the pun)

by ILoveTTATT2 in

this absolutely upsets me!they always keep doing this garbage, putting people into harm's way by not telling them the whole information!and plus, any blood info from australia is likely biased... the two jw's they hired to manage blood transfusions in australia are doing an excellent job at doing propaganda.

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OrphanCrow

This is what makes my blood boil.

Follow the link that is in the OP concerning the "Best practice guidelines on blood transfusions":

http://transfusion.com.au/transfusion_practice/patient_blood_management

Patient Blood Management
Patient Blood Management (PBM) is the timely application of evidence-based medical and surgical concepts designed to maintain haemoglobin concentration, optimise haemostasis and minimise blood loss in an effort to improve patient outcome.(1)
The Austrian benchmark study of blood use in adult patients undergoing elective surgery demonstrated three main predictors for red blood cell transfusions: preoperative anaemia, volume of surgical blood loss and failure to adopt a more restrictive threshold for transfusion.(2) Strategies to address these risks are referred to as the three pillars of patient blood management:
optimisation of blood volume and red cell mass
minimisation of blood loss
optimisation of the patient’s tolerance of anaemia
PBM incorporates proactive treatment regimes which are tailored to suit individual patients, using a multidisciplinary team approach to conserve a patient’s own blood. Techniques may involve the use of pharmaceutical agents and medical devices to reduce the need for allogeneic blood transfusion.
An increasing focus on PBM has been driven by a number of factors including:
the risks associated with blood transfusion—with increasing evidence of increased length of stay and higher risk of morbidity and mortality
rising costs, both direct and indirect, associated with provision and transfusion of allogeneic blood
challenges of maintaining an adequate blood supply in the face of increased demand due to ageing population(3)
Within the surgical setting, employment of principles for patient blood management begins at the time of surgical booking and continues through to patient recovery, incorporating preoperative, intraoperative and postoperative measures.
Principles and strategies used for patient blood management are also relevant to non-surgical patients.
Patient Blood Management strategies are advancing and becoming a key area for improvement within the health sector both within Australia and internationally; with increasing demonstration that use of the methods results in:
increased patient satisfaction
decrease in the need for transfusion
improved patient outcomes
healthcare cost savings.(1)

And where do these guidelines for transfusion practice in Australia originate?

The guidelines originate with the Society for the Advancement of Blood Management:

References
Society for the Advancement of Blood Management. Professional definition Patient Blood Management. [cited 2012 September 11]. Available from: http://www.sabm.org/
Gombotz H, Rehak R, Shander A, Hofmann A. Blood use in elective surgery: the Austrian benchmark study. Transfusion 2007;47:1468–1480.
Thomson A, Farmer S, Hofmann A, Isbister J, Shander A. Patient Blood Management - a new paradigm for transfusion medicine? ISBT Science Series 2009;4:423–435.

Farmer and Hoffman are definitely JWs - I am not sure about the other names listed...I think a couple of them may be JWs as well. They all have conducted many, many medical studies on Jehovah's Witnesses and are a part of the blood management programs and clinics that have been established through the WTS' Hospital Information Services network.

And that is who is setting the guidelines for EVERYBODY. The WTS trained the people who now control the entire blood supply in Australia.The Society for the Advancement of Blood Management is an "arm's length" Watchtower Society organization. It was founded by Jehovah's Witnesses who came up through the ranks of the Hospital Liaison Committees.

That is what makes my blood boil.

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"THE TRUTH" & "THE WAY"

by Nicholaus Kopernicus in

when speaking of "the truth" jehovah's witnesses may have in mind several contexts, including.... "... the entire body of christian teachings that has become part of the bible..." w08 12/15 p. 27-p. 29 par.

13and/or the body of knowledge determined by the "... highest ecclesiastical authority for the faith of jehovah's witnesses..." which is arrived at and sanctioned by the governing body and as stated by gerrit losch in his legal submission to the supreme court of california in february 2014.indeed, most jehovah's witnesses may not discriminate between these two perspectives and will likely envisage the body of knowledge determined by the gb as synonymous with that stated in the aforementioned 2008 wt magazine ("entire body of christian teachings").

however, a number of dissenting/analytical jehovah's witnesses, former congregants, etc., will discern an increasing gulf between that which is scripturally derived / determined, and the body of knowledge arrrived at by the gb.gerrit losch in the following magazine article "w12 8/1 p. 28 champions of the truth" is noted as having asked....''how do we know we have the truth?

OrphanCrow

"The Way"

http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Cults/way.htm

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Scientology is a template of ultimate Mind Control: Here are some books exposing the methods and madness

by TerryWalstrom in

pdf links to anti-scientology books.

http://exscientologistsireland.org/wp/about-the-scientology-organisation/books/.

it was 1950, in the early, heady days of dianetics, soon after l. ron hubbard opened the doors of his first organization to the clamoring crowd.

OrphanCrow

SophiaLose:
Now, that's serious mind control!
JWs are nothing in comparison. So, quit your whining!!!

Jehovah's Witnesses are told to give up their life for the WTS' blood god. And they will even lay their children on the altar of the blood god.

How much more serious do you want it to get???? How much more serious can it get?

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Scientology is a template of ultimate Mind Control: Here are some books exposing the methods and madness

by TerryWalstrom in

pdf links to anti-scientology books.

http://exscientologistsireland.org/wp/about-the-scientology-organisation/books/.

it was 1950, in the early, heady days of dianetics, soon after l. ron hubbard opened the doors of his first organization to the clamoring crowd.

OrphanCrow

Terry, have you ever had the opportunity to view the movie "The Master"?

http://www.wired.com/2012/09/the-master-review/

Review: The Master Elegantly Dissects Cult Psychosis
BEAUTIFUL TO LOOK at, strangely hypnotic and utterly original, The Master examines cult dynamics through the ’50s-era misadventures of a violent ex-sailor with horrible posture and zero impulse control.
Filmmaking artistry aside, writer-director Paul Thomas Anderson‘s picture hits home as a period-perfect examination of a perpetually recurring truth: When people hanker for a know-it-all authority figure who will tell them what to think, self-appointed “masters” will be more than happy to oblige.
Anderson brings cult behavior into fascinating focus by examining the bond between two characters portrayed by extraordinary actors: the accidental, alcoholic seeker Freddie Quill, played by Joaquin Phoenix, and the suave, all-American swami Lancaster Dodd, played by Philip Seymour Hoffman.

...read more about the movie by following the link...

The movie is apparently based upon Ron Hubbard and his mind control methods. I found it to be a disturbing movie that is all too real in its depiction of mind control tactics. Chilling. I highly recommend it - but for anyone who could be triggered by past experiences with cult control....you might not want to watch it. I found parts of it difficult to watch.

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Can a video involving a christien having sex be viewed and used by elders?

by StephaneLaliberte in

lets say someone has a sexual encounter and a third party video taps it.

in canada, it would be illegal for the one that taped the video to show it to the elders as this would be "invasion of privacy".

what i am wondering however is if any legal action can be done against the elders and the wt if they view this video and take it into account in a judicial comity.

OrphanCrow

ecan6:
The person who filmed was not involved in the sexual activity. Hence, I know for a fact that he cannot show this video to anyone as legal recourse can be done against him.

Did either or both of the other parties know that they were being taped?

"I know for a fact..." - please elaborate on this fact. Does this fact originate with a lawyer?

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Can a video involving a christien having sex be viewed and used by elders?

by StephaneLaliberte in

lets say someone has a sexual encounter and a third party video taps it.

in canada, it would be illegal for the one that taped the video to show it to the elders as this would be "invasion of privacy".

what i am wondering however is if any legal action can be done against the elders and the wt if they view this video and take it into account in a judicial comity.

OrphanCrow

3rdgen: I have a relative whose wife told the elders he was physically abusing her. They wanted to meet with him. He wanted to prove his innocence and show that actually it was HER who was abusive so he videotaped several episodes of her fits of rage.
His elders (California) flatly refused to even look at the tapes. Legal must have told them that there must be consent to be taped and consent for said tape to be viewed by others.

In Canada, that tape would be a legal piece of evidence. A person is allowed to tape/videotape a conversation or interaction with someone else without their knowledge. The only person who needs to give consent is the person who taped it if they are one of the parties involved.

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Can a video involving a christien having sex be viewed and used by elders?

by StephaneLaliberte in

lets say someone has a sexual encounter and a third party video taps it.

in canada, it would be illegal for the one that taped the video to show it to the elders as this would be "invasion of privacy".

what i am wondering however is if any legal action can be done against the elders and the wt if they view this video and take it into account in a judicial comity.

OrphanCrow

ecan6: Lets say someone has a sexual encounter and a third party video taps it. In Canada, it would be illegal for the one that taped the video to show it to the elders as this would be "invasion of privacy". What I am wondering however is if any legal action can be done against the elders and the WT if they view this video and take it into account in a Judicial Comity.

Are any of the parties in the tape underage?

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2001 Symposium on "Problems of Bloodless Surgery" in Moscow - Sherri Ozawa explains the HLC and bloodless medicine clinics

by OrphanCrow in

a few years ago, prior to researching the field of "bloodless medicine", i was under the mistaken impression that bloodless surgery was a field of medicine that sat "outside" of the watchtower influence and operated as a part of mainstream medicine.

since that time, i have discovered that "bloodless medicine" has been founded and maintained by the watchtower society itself.

bloodless medicine is the watchtower society - it has been organized by people who have been trained by the wts and therefore, the bloodless industry is controlled by the wts.

OrphanCrow

Yes, Rebel, we are definitely in the same camp! I agree with everything you said.

As with many other things, wts steps up and takes credit for certain things they did and did not do, while at other times they pretend as though others did things they did. They flip back and forth between these strategies as the situation suits their needs. (They do this with the Holocaust, neurolinguistic programming, and the US civil rights movement, among other things. It's a standard strategy of theirs.)

Yes, yes, and yes. This is what is the most difficult to deal with and the most wrong - the deception. The WTS uses strategies that are not transparent or honest. Each and every one of us knows that if a person is an active JW, that they MUST toe the WTS line. There is no other option. A JW thinks and behaves exactly the way that the WTS tells them to. They do not have the option to behave independently. The entire bloodless medicine/blood management industry has been founded by JWs trained by the WTS and most people in the general population and even medical professionals themselves do not know this. The JWs who founded, and continue to promote these industries, rarely/never declare their affiliation with the WTS - they never say that they are JWs.

Well, that would be like the Catholic nuns running abortion clinics but never telling people about their religious affiliation. When JWs like Farmer and Hoffman are involved in influencing how blood is to be used for the general population, I have a HUGE problem with that. HUGE.

I don't think that the pope should be involved in telling doctors how abortions should be conducted, and I don't think that the pope should be invested in birth control pills. Likewise, I don't think the WTS or the JWs that they train and control, should have anything at all to do with MY health care or anybody else's that isn't a JW. The WTS is way out of line with how they have influenced and lobbied the medical profession.

Shannon Farmer sometimes has said that he is a "consumer advocate" and there he goes, advocating for... who? For you? Or for the JWs? Which consumer does he represent? And why? I know one thing - he does NOT represent me. I do NOT want a JW of any kind, shape or form involved in my medical care.

Gioradan: The fact that the Society is involved in bloodless surgery has, in my opinion, little to do with an attempt to save lives since they could do that by simply "decriminalizing" the Blood ban, but more to do with keeping this barbaric line of reasoning in place and avoid the massive outcry from their followers should it be lifted.

This is why the blood ban is SO important to the WTS:

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

The WTS has always lobbied the medical community. They have invested money since day one of the blood ban into promoting their brand of medicine. They have produced tons of literature and media over the years to promote their no blood ideology to mainstream medicine. Just stop and think for a minute about how much it would cost to establish and maintain their HLC network. The literature alone that is produced for the HLC network is a huge cost. Training costs. Traveling costs. What about those two bigwigs who attended the Moscow conference I posted who came from the WTS' "International Hospital Information Services"?

Where does the money come from to organize, train, travel, and maintain the whole hospital information system, including HLC, program coordinators,etc, etc.? Is it part of congregational donations? Who finances the HLC and the Hospital Information network???

I don't buy for one second that the WTS has invested all that time and money into influencing the medical community simply to avoid law suits or "help the JWs".

When a business spends money on something, it is called an investment. Spending money in an area means that there is a potential profit in that area. If the WTS wasn't making money on their blood ban, the blood ban wouldn't be in place. They wouldn't spend money on no blood promotion if they weren't seeing a financial return on it.

Who or what finances the WTS' HLC and the entire Hospital Information network???

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2001 Symposium on "Problems of Bloodless Surgery" in Moscow - Sherri Ozawa explains the HLC and bloodless medicine clinics

by OrphanCrow in

a few years ago, prior to researching the field of "bloodless medicine", i was under the mistaken impression that bloodless surgery was a field of medicine that sat "outside" of the watchtower influence and operated as a part of mainstream medicine.

since that time, i have discovered that "bloodless medicine" has been founded and maintained by the watchtower society itself.

bloodless medicine is the watchtower society - it has been organized by people who have been trained by the wts and therefore, the bloodless industry is controlled by the wts.

OrphanCrow

I can't read Russian, either, opusder, that is why Google translate is so valuable.

Bloodless surgery is ineffective in major blood loss. Bloodless surgery methods are not suitable for everybody or for every circumstance.

In some cases, the methods used for bloodless surgery can actually increase the need for allogenic blood transfusions. And...the risks of artificial blood are greater that the risks of allogenic blood transfusion.

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Child Abuse - "I don't care. I haven't got any children".

by cofty in

earlier this week i bumped into a couple of jws who i recognised from the cult cart.

a few months ago i had a long conversation with him one of them and found him to be quite friendly.

he is new to the area in the years since i left.. this time he was very defensive and said he wasn't allowed to talk to me.

OrphanCrow

SophiaRose: Also parents need to take better care of their young. Yes, parents.

...ummmm...I hate to break this to you, SophiaRose, but many children are sexually abused by their own parents.

Sexual abuse quite often is found within the family itself. Saying that the parents need to take better care is true - the parents have to stop abusing their own children. Pretending that it is the "big bad" monster that is outside of the family circle that is the one to watch out for ignores familial abuse cycles.