i wonder if the guy will get off the hook for murder since the jw died during surgery that he refused blood for.
http://www.fresnobee.com/2015/05/15/4526968/did-fresno-shooting-victims-religious.html.
This case has similarities to one that happened in California in 1998. In that situation, a drunk driver hit a JW woman, she refused blood and died. The state tried to convict him of murder, but the jury assigned blame for her death equally. The drunk driver got ten years for manslaughter.
http://amarillo.com/stories/1998/12/19/usn_ddriver.shtml#.VVqL0rlViko
There is a good discussion about the case, and the legal dilemmas that it posed, on this site here:
oh man, i know i'm gonna catch flack for this.. everyone sees masonic conspiracies everywhere.. i am not a conspiracy theorist.
i don't honestly believe the governing body are freemasons.. yet, probably due to cruising this site and seeing all the masonic conspiracy threads, i saw this when looking for a shot of lett's pinky ring to show how he wore one in october, but then took it off in may to ask for money.. .
original is on the left, and on the right, i played with the brightness/contrast to get it to show up a little better.. what does the pattern on his ring look like to you?.
Geez...the rings are Ringlys. When the light flashes on them, it looks like a triangle.
No Masonic sign. Just light bouncing off a cut stone.
.. i`ve just come across this... welcome to the official illuminati website.
.................. click the link below... illuminati official website - illuminatiofficial.org | contact or .... .. is it real?.....is it bogus?....is it a joke?...
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Cantleave, you should receive another email from the website in a couple more days. You will be required to answer questions. The answers can be found in...tada!...a book that you have to buy. It is just another publishing scam.
https://charliekb.wordpress.com/2015/02/02/illuminiat-i-am-not/#comments
Out of curiosity I emailed them, and then got an email back from 'Thaddeus Iam', saying that my membership was being reviewed.
Fast forward a couple of days and I received another email in which they explained that to complete my membership, I had to answer a couple of questions that related to 'Illumination: The First Testament of the Illuminati', unfortunately for them I’m not willing to spend £10 on idle curiosity. However had the book come with a free bottle of wine or a coupon for a free packet of Dairylea or something then I might have bought it.
oh man, i know i'm gonna catch flack for this.. everyone sees masonic conspiracies everywhere.. i am not a conspiracy theorist.
i don't honestly believe the governing body are freemasons.. yet, probably due to cruising this site and seeing all the masonic conspiracy threads, i saw this when looking for a shot of lett's pinky ring to show how he wore one in october, but then took it off in may to ask for money.. .
original is on the left, and on the right, i played with the brightness/contrast to get it to show up a little better.. what does the pattern on his ring look like to you?.
.. i`ve just come across this... welcome to the official illuminati website.
.................. click the link below... illuminati official website - illuminatiofficial.org | contact or .... .. is it real?.....is it bogus?....is it a joke?...
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Outlaw: Is It Real?.....Is It Bogus?....Is it a Joke?..
What is real about this is that thousands of people think it is.
The believers are real people. The website and Facebook page are handy in that those people are now identified.
Isn't the internet a fascinating place? So malleable. And so effective at gathering like minded individuals together. I wonder who is interested in identifying those 'dissidents' who believe in the Illuminati?
i've noted active, devoted jw's state the above.. and, it's not a problem for me to remain trusting of god, i just don't trust religions or men.. recently, a member of this forum stated that he remains an active jw, in the family of god's people, wanting to encourage and do good - whilst recognising that the pastoral leaders (the gb) have shipwrecked the faith of many, being unsound scripturally etc, etc.. stop and think about this - the bible says to not follow after those who lie and hurt the faith of "little ones".. the pharisees were accused of traversing over lands and expending much energy to make a single convert - only for that convert to end up worse of than he started off with.. it's one thing to not believe this is the 'truth' and feeling the awful pressure of managing ones life, trying not to lose ones family.. it's quite another thing to declare oneself to be a christian believer of god's jw household, and somehow believe the god of love would use corrupt liars to parade as jesus' brothers in the urgency of last days.
really?
and, to then visibly promote faith in corrupt men, and try to bring converts into a place where the rulership is wrong.. some of us are dying from hurt here.......give me a break..
Brother Jeramy: It is telling because this form of casting of aspersions is the same tactic the Governing Body employs, namely they call people deluded, either by inference or at times directly, who do not see things their way or who do things contrary to their will.
So, then, what's the difference if the Governing Body does this or if former Jehovah's Witnesses do it?
The answer is simple. There is a huge imbalance of power between the two positions.
The Governing Body does it to take power away from the members and to feed the WTS' need for control. They abuse their power.
The exJWs do it to gain their personal power back. EXJWs are entitled to their own power.
Big difference.
Comparing the two positions is comparing apples and oranges.
crofton wins key role on jehovah's witnesses campus.
6 may 2015 | by yoosof farah.
engineer lands role on scheme that will predominantly be designed and constructed by volunteers.
It's a big project but definitely not worth the amount of money grabbing from the collection of congregation bank accounts and the sale of many KH's, Circuit Assembly Halls, and the Brooklyn properties. Add to that the scam of forgiving loans but not forgetting a monthly contribution of equal or higher amount than the loan used to be.
Well...the WTS spends very little on 'charitable' activities. They have to come up with ways to spend money that are acceptable expenditures to the taxman in order to retain their 'charitable' status. The WTS is spending money on 'acceptable' buildings because they don't really do charity - they 'teach literacy' and 'provide Bibles'. All activities that justify new buildings.
Has anyone looked into this 'outside consulting firm'? How 'outside' is Crofton Consulting Engineers? Are there any JW connections within the firm? The WTS is usually all about patronage.
can anyone like "atlantis" help me find this in pdf.
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Which supports the assertion that the WTS is really a religious publishing house working at its core and the creation of its own sales representatives is the creation of the Jehovah's Witnesses religion, self designed to distribute what the WTS. publishes to the public .
You are exactly right, Finkelstein. Just imagine - if you took away the WT literature, there would be no JW religion. The entire religion is based upon WT literature.
Take away the WT literature and poof! - the JW religion disappears.
allow me to begin with a clarification: when i say i am one of jehovah's witnesses, i don't mean that i am an advocate of the watchtower society or a devotee of some of its more controversial false teachings.
i mean that i am a christian, a disciple of jesus christ dedicated to jehovah god, and who remains in union with my brothers and sisters who make up the family of faith that globally refers to itself as jehovah's witnesses.
some totally understand the distinction between the family of brothers and sisters and the corporate organization known as the watchtower society (wts).
Almost everyone here is a jerk and condescending.
Deflection.
Also,
That is actually the opposite of what I said.
Nice one - you call people names and then say it is their own fault.
No. You said people were crazy - and why? because you "...recognize that this is often caused because of the deep pains and hurt (they) you've experienced at the hands of others." So...the craziness is caused by the person themselves - it is their life that has made them crazy. Your interpretation of 'crazy' and what has caused that is a stand that makes you morally superior.
That's not what offering sympathy means.
And, then you said that you are the healthy one by offering your 'sympathy'.
It's misplaced. Your sympathy is neurotic - it is unjustified and yet again....serves to place you on the moral high ground.
allow me to begin with a clarification: when i say i am one of jehovah's witnesses, i don't mean that i am an advocate of the watchtower society or a devotee of some of its more controversial false teachings.
i mean that i am a christian, a disciple of jesus christ dedicated to jehovah god, and who remains in union with my brothers and sisters who make up the family of faith that globally refers to itself as jehovah's witnesses.
some totally understand the distinction between the family of brothers and sisters and the corporate organization known as the watchtower society (wts).
Jmorgan, you are truly condescending.
Some of you actually sound more crazy than the people you're trying to warn others about, although I recognize that this is often caused because of the deep pains and hurt you've experienced at the hands of others.
Nice one - you call people names and then say it is their own fault. Not yours, nosiree...because, with your superior attitude, you justify it:
I am sympathetic to that as well. I encourage everyone who has been hurt to try and heal and move forward in whatever way that is possible for you,
So. You just called people crazy and wounded/unhealthy. And, then you said that you are the healthy one by offering your 'sympathy'.
Step down off your high horse - your nose is gonna trip you up if you don't lower it.
