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  Active posters: What education have you had, what degrees do you possess?

  by EndofMysteries in

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  from so many posts and conversations on here, you'd think over 1/2 the posters here possess doctorates in theology, physics, biology, etc.

  i'm curious aside from the books and research people have done here, what degrees they have.

  to start, i just got an aa and going straight through full time to an mba.

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  opusdei1972 Many christians who have a Ph.D. in theology use this degree to propagate lies with a scholarly language. Nothing more.

  Good Point. Degrees come with bias. Just because someone has some letters doesn't mean the letters are credible. I have read much material written by people who claim degrees, and then when I have researched where those degrees come from, I find that they are little more than popcorn box degrees. (Dr. Bergman's biology degree springs to mind)

  Many of the theologians with Phds in front of their names have been educated in Christian universities that have a pre-determined bias built into their educational material. Or, they have been awarded their degrees from 'Bible' colleges.

  'Scholarly' has a broad range of interpretation.
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  Active posters: What education have you had, what degrees do you possess?

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  from so many posts and conversations on here, you'd think over 1/2 the posters here possess doctorates in theology, physics, biology, etc.

  i'm curious aside from the books and research people have done here, what degrees they have.

  to start, i just got an aa and going straight through full time to an mba.

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  TTWSYF:
  adjusted knowledge: Though I think credentials are important and add weight to a person's argument, I also think a well read person with life experience is just as qualified
  I disagree. Although it can be true. The problem is that where are they getting their reading material? Is it an accredited source of information?

  I agree with you. TTWSYF.

  A well read person is not necessarily the same as well educated. A person may be well read in hundreds of books and still fall short of having a solid base of knowledge.

  And, a person can have excellent critical reasoning skills but no solid base upon which to use them. It is the educational institution that can offer a framework in which to evaluate material.

  That said, though, I have met many people with lots of letters behind, and in front of, their names who are dumb as posts on subjects outside their frame of reference. And I have met people with little more than a grade school education that have phenomenal knowledge about particular subjects.

  Education comes in many forms - learning is a life time endeavor, and just because a person doesn't have letters behind their name, doesn't mean that they don't have valuable contributions to make and things to teach even the most learned. That is why the greatest teachers teach - so that they can learn.
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  Active posters: What education have you had, what degrees do you possess?

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  from so many posts and conversations on here, you'd think over 1/2 the posters here possess doctorates in theology, physics, biology, etc.

  i'm curious aside from the books and research people have done here, what degrees they have.

  to start, i just got an aa and going straight through full time to an mba.

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  OrphanCrow

  Bachelor of Arts (3 yr) degree - Psychology.

  Bachelor of Fine Arts (4 year) - Photography.

  Masters of Fine Arts - Intermedia.

  ...and a well-earned but unawarded 'doctorate' degree in survival.
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  21 Years as an Elder, 5 as an MS, I will never be that guy again.

  by James Jack in

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  2. experiences

  i was deleted as the cobe after i let my adult child move back home and he admitted that he fornicated under my roof while my wife and i where away on a rbc project.

  of course the elder mode in me kicked him out of the house.. the elders moved quickly to remove me because i was too involved in "theocractic activities", i had neglected my adult son.. i accepted this primarily because i didn't want to serve with a boe that did not want me.

  i was devastated however because it was the only life i knew.

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  FayeDunaway:
  Speaking of all these torn families, Has anyone noticed what the special talk after the memorial is entitled? Quite ironic.

  Yes, I did. It isn't just ironic - it is insanity.

  "A Promise of Perfect Family Happiness"

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  
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  Child Protection is Everyone's Responsibility!

  by ABibleStudent in

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  i just completed recurrent child protection training for a voluntary organization that i belong to.

  i wanted to share the following information.

  i highlighted one statement in bold from the training that i felt was important for adults of any organization to remember.. peace be with you and everyone, who you love,robert.

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  Fisherman: Child Protection is NOT Everyone's LEGAL Responsibility!

  That depends on which country you live in. In Canada, child protection IS everybody's legal responsibility.

  http://www.children.gov.on.ca/htdocs/English/topics/childrensaid/reportingabuse/abuseandneglect/abuseandneglect.aspx

  Who is responsible for reporting a child in need of protection?
  Anyone who has reasonable grounds to suspect that a child is or may be in need of protection must promptly report the suspicion and the information upon which it is based to a CAS. Section 72 (1) describes the specific circumstances that must be reported (See pages 7 to 10). [CFSA s.72 (1)]

  Do professionals and officials have any special responsibilities to report?
  Professionals and officials have the same duty as the rest of the public to report their suspicion that a child is or may be in need of protection. However, the Act recognizes that people working closely with children have a special awareness of the signs of child abuse and neglect, and a particular responsibility to report their suspicions. Any professional or official who fails to report a suspicion is liable on conviction to a fine of up to $1,000, if they obtained the information in the course of their professional or official duties. [CFSA s.72 (4), (6.2)]
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  Patient dies as JW paramedic refuses to administer blood product -- thanks, Religious Freedom Act!

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. social
  2. current

  (i realize this topic may have already been addressed so i apologize in advance.).

  no, that's not a real headline but i suppose it could be one here in arkansas -- one of several states in the us that has a religious freedom law on their books.. as i understand it, if i, as a jw paramedic, am ordered to deliver a blood product to my patient, i can refuse to do so based on my religious freedom.

  as a logical consequence, a patient could die.. would paramedic be an occupation be that one of jehovah's witnesses simply cannot accept, knowing fully well that you would be in a likely position to administer blood..

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  In Canada, paramedics administer blood and blood products.

  In Saskatchewan, paramedics carry and administer blood - a friend of mine was given blood in his home before being transported by ambulance to the hospital.
  

  This is from a training module for Portage College of Paramedics in Alberta:

  The incidents of administering blood products in the field are very rare, except perhaps in the air ambulance setting. However, with the trend of increased patient transfers and specialized health care centers, the frequency Paramedics are required to initiate and monitor the transfusion of blood products is increasing. As a result, the practitioner must have a strong understanding of the different types of blood products; the importance of ensuring the blood product is administered to the intended recipient, the process of initiating and monitoring blood products and assessing the patient for adverse reactions.

  https://www.collegeofparamedics.org/media/60977/emtp_bloodproducts.pdf

  Where this becomes pertinent for Canadians, is disclosed in the following article:

  http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/doctors-make-charter-challenge-on-right-to-refuse-care-on-religious-grounds-1.3006462

  Christian medical professionals are challenging Ontario's College of Physicians and Surgeons in court over a policy that requires doctors to provide or at least refer medical services, even when they clash with personal values.

  In a statement of claim filed in Ontario's Superior Court of Justice, two groups — the Christian Medical and Dental Society of Canada and the Canadian Federation of Catholic Physicians' Societies — and five individual doctors say the college's policy violates their rights under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
  At issue is the Ontario medical regulator's vote earlier this month to update its professional and human rights policy.

  The new Ontario policy requires doctors unwilling to provide certain care, such as prescriptions for contraception, to refer patients in good faith to a "non-objecting, available, and accessible" physician. The policy also says in medical emergencies, the doctors would be required to perform procedures themselves.

  Doctors who violate the policy could face disciplinary action, the college policy states.

  FatFreek:

  Would paramedic be an occupation be that one of Jehovah's Witnesses simply cannot accept, knowing fully well that you would be in a likely position to administer blood.

  I believe this was directly answered in one of the Watchtowers from back in the 80s or 90s, I think. I don't know the exact quote, but it could have been a question from readers - whether someone working in health care (doctor or nurse) could administer blood. The answer was 'yes'.

  
  
  
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  I'm bemused - Vladimir Putin as a Christian Warrior - Do Russians see him as a fighter for Jesus?

  by fulltimestudent in

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  i accidentally came across this youtube video, "why the west fears putin.

  " curious, i watched it.

  you may find it interesting also.

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  Orphan Crow - I don't mean to be mean but your question is a 30 second google search.
  ....they are the older generation who came up through the military, society and especially the KGB/Communist Politburo/Political organizations in the same manner as Vlad, who as I have pointed out is KGB trained and bred. Typically they pine to be back in the USSR.
  If you are truly a Russophile, you would have known this.

  thank you...but I have spent little time on the history of Russia after the Revolution...you are speaking, then, of the old 'Bolshevik' guard - the 'old guard' that is post 1917...not the old guard of old Russia...

  Sorry...I will back out of this and return to my dusty readings through Imperial Russian history...pre-Soviet history...pardon me....
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  How Radicalised are Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by snugglebunny in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  back in the early 70's, the wt stated that all persons who had lived and died would be resurrected after armageddon.

  only non believers would be killed at armageddon, never to return.

  in short, if you died before the big a, you were guaranteed to return.. this gave rise amongst several ex's to concerns that their well-meaning jw parents might just consider the possibilty of having their offspring "lovingly" bumped off so as to ensure their resurrection!.

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  Oh...I forgot one of the JWs biggest anti- , and it deserves at least an honorable mention.

  Anti-Catholic.
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  How Radicalised are Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by snugglebunny in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  back in the early 70's, the wt stated that all persons who had lived and died would be resurrected after armageddon.

  only non believers would be killed at armageddon, never to return.

  in short, if you died before the big a, you were guaranteed to return.. this gave rise amongst several ex's to concerns that their well-meaning jw parents might just consider the possibilty of having their offspring "lovingly" bumped off so as to ensure their resurrection!.

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  Are the JWs radical?

  I think so. In a few ways.

  The religion attracts that element of population who are dissatisfied with 'current affairs' and who buy into the idea that 'this system' (government) is 'Bad'. The JW religion gives a safe haven to people who are already 'radicalized' or 'marginalized' by their political viewpoint of 'the world'. The JWs are made up of people who are 'anti- government' and 'anti-establishment' and 'anti- religion', etc.

  As many have already said - the JW child sacrifice rituals are radical. Their self-sacrifice on the altar of blood is radical.

  They preach radical teachings - anti-Christendom, anti-UN, anti-Russia, anti-government, anti-fill in the blank...
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  How is Joe Publisher reacting to all the TV coverage on the abuse cases?

  by 4thgen in

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  2. child-abuse

  please pardon if this a repeated topic.

  i have had virtually no contact with any witnesses beside my mother for the past few years.

  she watches tv constantly and claims she has never seen anything on the watchtower abuse cases.

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  This is why we should all be twittering and instagraming ex-JW celebrities. THEY will bring attention to the issue. Imagine just one person on a major talk show mentioning child sexual abuse in the WTBTS.

  Good luck on finding that one celebrity that will speak out, DD.

  Whenever I have heard exJW celebrities speak about their past religion, they are usually apologetic.

  I am thinking of Sherry, who used to be on "The View". She would say nothing bad about the JWs,and was always defending them.

  Celebrities have their own image to protect and the ones who have left the religion seem to still suffer from the 'protect the organization' effect.