Posts by OrphanCrow

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New Documentary to boost JW's stand on blood

by discreetslave in

this trailer is circulating on jw apologist sites and youtube channels just in time for their annual reminder on no blood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnyjhjecfim

OrphanCrow

To add to the information exposing this film as a noblood propaganda piece generated by the WTS.

http://www.asiageographic.com/primum/Primum_Press_Kit_2012.pdf

This man is a Jehovah's Witness - the Watchtower is linked to his linkedin profile and his JW grandmother's obit is online:

Co-producer/Co-director/Editor – Jason Sievert (United States) Sievert started his career working from the ground up. He has experience shooting on location in Germany, Brazil, England, Spain, France, Italy, Puerto Rico and Canada. He has filmed all over the USA including Los Angeles and New York. He has extensive experience in television and film productions, both as Producer and Editor, being recognized with several international awards. As Co-producer, Co-director and Editor, Sievert's expertise shines through in 'Primum Non Nocere'.

One of the key investors is a Jehovah's Witness. You can read a lengthy and revealing discussion that Niel May engages in about the JWs and blood in the comments section of this article:

http://www.irishhealth.com/article.html?id=5108

Key Investor – Noel May (Ireland) May has a range of business interests in Australia, Ireland, Spain, and the United Kingdom. These revolve around the wellness and health markets. He is a financial investor in 'Primum Non Nocere – First Do No Harm', and was instrumental in facilitating a key interview with Prof. Slepoushkin, MD, from Russia. May continues to collaborate with Asia Geographic Entertainment on the project and is convinced this documentary will make a difference.

The other investor is interesting - Yanti Regan from Malaysia - described in some places as "Indonesia's multi-level marketing (MLM) magnate".

The photo researcher on the film crew is a Jehovah's Witness. His zoominfo profile lists his employment as the Watchtower Art Department.:

Photo Researcher - Tim Fortuna (United States) Fortuna is a freelance photo researcher and has spent the last 15 years building a reputation in photo research, licensing, and image acquisition. His first-rate research has lead to many new archival discoveries.

This film is definitely a biased production made by JWs and directed towards a larger market. It has the appearance of an independent production yet it is anything but that.

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Lorenz Reibling gives interview about real estate

by OrphanCrow in

this interview was posted april 16, 2015 on youtube.

lorenz reibling's replies to the reporter in argentina are in english.. lorenz reibling is intimately connected to the watchtower society and, according to some sources, is a jw himself.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3ssa-9yvii.

so who is lorenz reibling?

OrphanCrow

vidiot: Hell, I'm a five-year-plus fader who knows the TATT backwards and forwards, and the possibility that the WTS could be surreptitiously profiting from the "bloodless" med-tech industry - and what's more, crafting it's blood-related policies to maximize said profits - never occurred to me.

Vidiot, I was in the same boat as you five years ago. It never crossed my mind. I was doing some digging around about charity laws and nonprofits - I have some knowledge about the nonprofit system through experience in the art world - galleries and artists' collectives operate in that system. Somehow or another, in my research, which had taken me down to Australia, I stumbled upon a link that ended me up with access to a court ruling from Russia. A court case between the Watchtower Society and the Russian Supreme Court. I translated it and when I read it through, trying to make sense of the judgement, one part jumped out at me - the WTS lawyers were making a case to the Russian courts that the reason that the JWs were valuable to Russia was that there were 3000 doctors all lined up and waiting to give bloodless treatment to JWs.

And that is when my first spidey sense went up - I had a rigorous professor in university for my research and methodology class, and ethical dilemmas were a large part of that class. Something didn't sit right with that. And then, when I started to look into this "bloodless medicine" that was being talked about in the Russian courts, the JWs all started to tumble out of the blood management tree.

That is when I started to do extensive "outside research" - I poured over medical books and studies, trying to understand blood and the technology that is associated with it. I schooled myself on blood history and how the bloodless market developed and where it fits in the blood transfusion timeline. And it was when I was doing that, that I stumbled upon an old, outdated book in a medical library that I visited to research blood transfusions. It was a book that had been produced by the WTS and placed in the medical library in 1974.

It was from reading that book that another revelation happened - I found my baby's place in the history of blood transfusion development. I wasn't looking for that, either, when I started this. I was only trying to figure out what kind of funding model the WTS was using for tax purposes.

I guess I shook the blood tree a little hard. My own blood fell out of it.

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Strange Moment During The 2015 Regional Convention

by JW_Rogue in

hi, i'm new here but hadn't seen this mentioned anywhere yet.

during the "imitate jesus" rc there was a strange moment where they played a video of a brother trying to explain the 1914 teaching.

the brother quickly goes through all the scriptural "proofs" and the householder is dumbfounded.

OrphanCrow

Finklestein: I wonder why no other Christian based faith came up with 1914 and its supposed relevance ?

They have. It just hasn't been advertised as extensively.

The Ba'hai faith claim the same 1914 prophecy. (The Ba'hai's are considered to be an apostate offshoot of Islam - they believe in the progression of prophets - Moses, Jesus, Mohammed and then Baha'u'llah).

In a newspaper article from Colorado around 1915, Abdu'l-Baha is pictured as the "Son of the Founder and Present Leader of the Baha'i Movement." A subheading entitled "Predicted War" goes on to say:

"At Leland Stanford university, in October, 1912, this same Abdu'l-Baha predicted the Great War: 'We are on the eve of the battle of Armageddon, referred to in the 16th chapter of Revelation. The time is two years hence when only a small spark will set aflame the whole of Europe."

http://www.uhj.net/end-time-prophecy.html

World War I which began in August of 1914, on the date 'Abdu'l-Baha accurately predicted was considered by scholars, after the fact, to fulfill the same Biblical prophecies as given by 'Abdu'l-Baha. Yet 'Abdu'l-Baha gave the date of this event before it actual transpired in the world, and without the benefit of the "hindsight" of experts who saw, after the fact, that what 'Abdu'l-Baha gave and the date that he gave, was the explicit fulfillment of the prophecy and apocalyptic warning of God

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New Documentary to boost JW's stand on blood

by discreetslave in

this trailer is circulating on jw apologist sites and youtube channels just in time for their annual reminder on no blood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnyjhjecfim

OrphanCrow

I am bumping this thread to add some information about the two productions that are mentioned by discreetslave:

The film is the result of another project called Beijing Goes Bloodless.www.asiageographic.com/productions_pnn.html
The new documentary Primum Non Nocere is set to be released this springhttp://www.asiageographic.com/productions_pnn.html

The film Primum Non Nocere was produced and directed by two Jehovah's Wintesses who are part of the WTS bloodless team.

Richard Melseth and James Reynolds.

Melseth has been groomed by the WTS for his role in promoting 'bloodless' medicine since back in the 90s when he got his start with the Phoenix Hospital Liaison Committee for Jehovah's Witnesses (1993-1997). He also is one the JWs who are founding members of the Society for the Advancement of Blood Management - founded in 2001 and the first society of its kind.

Melseth's bio from website mybloodsite.com (now defunct):

Mr. Richard Melseth is Director of Blood Conservation Medicine at Banner Good Samaritan Medical Center, in Phoenix, Arizona. With ten years experience in the field of bloodless healthcare, Melseth has initiated development of hospital policies and clinical protocols, and coordinated multiple blood conservation education programs for physicians, nurses and the public, both locally and nationally.

Melseth's background in business development along with training while serving on the Phoenix Hospital Liaison Committee for Jehovah's Witnesses (1993-1997) propelled him into the world of blood management with program implementation at OrNda St Luke's Medical Center in 1995 and at Banner Good Samaritan Medical Center in 1999, a 625-bed, Level 1 trauma center and teaching hospital.

I have little information on James Reynolds except that he is tight with the other bloodless JWs - I believe Reynolds is also a JW. He is linked to the SABM, a JW organization, and to many of the JWs who are bloodless men. Reynolds and Melseth work together on promotion/propaganda campaigns for the bloodless world of the JWs.

discreetslave: I find it interesting the trailer is being circulated just before their serve-us meeting regarding No Blood. And that these projects are from an Asian production Co.,I say that because a few years back a JW from my old cong was attending the WT language instructors course he said they were told that the WT is focusing on the Chinese and are trying to direct more efforts towards reaching the Chinese especially the immigrants. He said they figured if more Chinese became JW's while abroad it will help gain more ground into China. This was second hand info but seeing this and noticing more Asians in the Learn From God's Word section of the public WT it seems more obvious.

Richard Melseth and James Reynolds have been part of the team actively grooming the Asian bloodless market for several years now.

A 2010 SABM newsletter chronicles the Asian bloodless promotional activities.

http://www.tingey.tv/Bloodless/PBM_Asia_report.pdf

The noblood propaganda films and other media formats that have been generated and distributed publicly, as well as inside the JWs, is entirely produced by the WTS and their strategically placed bloodless JW men. The information on these two films in particular is biased and deceptive. The information originates with the same organization that has put the Bloody Ban in place for the JWs to begin with.

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Lorenz Reibling gives interview about real estate

by OrphanCrow in

this interview was posted april 16, 2015 on youtube.

lorenz reibling's replies to the reporter in argentina are in english.. lorenz reibling is intimately connected to the watchtower society and, according to some sources, is a jw himself.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3ssa-9yvii.

so who is lorenz reibling?

OrphanCrow

Millie: Oh my OrphanCrow, this reads like a compelling sci fi novel.

Everything I have posted is available on the internet for anyone to find.

The sources are credible...it isn't fiction. I wish it was. None of what I have posted is secret or made up - the saying that "truth is stranger than fiction" certainly applies.

I dont have time to watch the videos right now but I will!

I have made some notes and observations about the 2013 REFIRE talk by Lorenz Reibling. I had made some notes earlier, but the video interested me so much that I watched it a few more times. I will copy and paste those comments here:

The 2013 video, where he presents to the REFIRE convention. is really interesting. The timelines and strategies line up well with the restructuring that the WTS is doing inside its organization.

I had made some notes and entry points on the video in a previous post, but I would like to expand on some of those points.

I think that Reibling's presentation explains a lot about the WTS' operations in land acquisition and development.

3:05 - L.R. talks about how a real estate market can be affected by a "high perception of uncertainty". Hmmm...I guess that would be like the JWs in the late 60s and early 70s who had a high perception of uncertainty and sold their homes before "Armageddon". (add - think of how property prices dropped in areas that were specifically targeted by JWs campaigns. Some ended up in court - the issue of preaching in gated communities. Land and home prices stalled while that was going on.)

8:38 - L.R. talks about stupidity - "Stupidity is normal".

8:50 - the US market - buying up of inventory - (think of how handy it is that there are all those KHs for sale...)

14:45 - L.R. speaks about biases - home bias, action bias...and prejudice.

15:37 - this is the mark that is very interesting...LR addresses the German perception of investing in the US - how Germans view the Americans as intellectually and culturally inferior. L.R. says that they told "those German investors to invest somewhere else." Hmph....does this coincide with the hold-ups on construction projects that the NY WTS was experiencing in 2011/12? Where they "were waiting on Jehovah"? Or were they having problems with their German investors ?

L.R. follows that up with an explanation as to why his investment firm is so successful, what it is that makes his company controllable. His company (he is always repeating this mantra) is located worldwide - on 3 continents and in 11 locations. The locations are important but L.R. says that what makes his company click is the loyalty. How does Taurus achieve this? Because Taurus uses "local specialists" who are loyal. "...they are not other people. They are our people."

Well, we know who "our people" are - they are JWs, loyal to the WTS. L.R. even says that they will occasionally use another player (think about the WTS' Jonadab class of helpers) but that they stick with their team. Of course they do - JWs always do business with other JWs - it is how the WTS works.

And how does L.R. build his team?

21:21 - "...building a local team, not around a deal, but around an idea..." ummm....that would be the idea that Jehovah is in charge...

L.R. then talks about promising potential in Turkey and about the Brooklyn developments Taurus was involved in. (see link re: Standish Hotel in previous post)

26:16 - L.R. says they are optimistic about the real estate market and investments in the US, but not so much about the European market.

28:27 - this is the big one...I think. L.R. says that he was successful in one of his missions. The mission was to find a new investor. He did - he found "a partner for life".

Whoa...would I ever like to know who this new "partner for life" is.

The video was taped in 2013...and less than a year later, the JW religion underwent a huge makeover. JW..org was launched in August 2014, and the changes since then have been rapid and radical. My guess is that this new "partner for life" is now the one giving directions to the whores of Babylon. The WTS' new pimp is calling the shots - and I wouldn't be surprised if this new pimp has their fingers in the technology world.

No wonder Tight Pants Tony sneers when he is on camera - he doesn't like being told what to do.

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Lorenz Reibling gives interview about real estate

by OrphanCrow in

this interview was posted april 16, 2015 on youtube.

lorenz reibling's replies to the reporter in argentina are in english.. lorenz reibling is intimately connected to the watchtower society and, according to some sources, is a jw himself.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3ssa-9yvii.

so who is lorenz reibling?

OrphanCrow

Mr. McMillan's updated profile says that he worked for Rio Tinto for 3 months in 2011.

Rio Tinto is a leading global mining and metals company.

His profile from 2010 listed details about his duties when he was employed by the Watchtower Society. He did work for the WTS at the Channar Iron Ore Mine.

Channar Ore Mine, if my memory serves me correctly, was owned by Rio Tinto and I think the iron ore projects in the Pilbara region were also owned by Rio Tinto.

The WTS, in some way, is linked to and/or has interests in the mining industry.

It might be that whoever has control of Old Chuck Russell's mining stocks has invested them wisely.

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Lorenz Reibling gives interview about real estate

by OrphanCrow in

this interview was posted april 16, 2015 on youtube.

lorenz reibling's replies to the reporter in argentina are in english.. lorenz reibling is intimately connected to the watchtower society and, according to some sources, is a jw himself.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3ssa-9yvii.

so who is lorenz reibling?

OrphanCrow

Here is some information that I had uncovered back in 2010, 5 years ago, that is pertinent to this thread.

It is clear that the WTS has JW friends that are heavily invested in realestate, construction/development, investments, and the bloodless market. To throw another monkey wrench onto the pile, the following information may prove interesting.

In this old post of 2010, the link to the profile of Alexander McMillan (an Australian JW) no longer works. This is a new one: https://www.linkedin.com/pub/alexander-mcmillan/44/950/aa8 but some of the material that I copied back in 2010 is not on his updated profile.

*****

This is from a public professional profile of a fellow from Australia by the name of Alexander McMillan. (text color change is mine...)

Summary of Expertise:
Training and Documentation Consultant
Alex is an experienced training consultant and Instructional Designer - a seasoned professional who focuses in on improving communication skills at all levels of the business environment.

His training and consulting experience spans a variety of industries including: financial services, mining, transport, insurance, government, printing & publishing, IT, telecommunications, horticulture and healthcare.

Areas of expertise and experience include the following:
Needs analysis and writing of technical documentation, training manuals and
Policy & Procedure manuals and Presenter's guides - diverse subject matter
Flowcharting of processes & procedures. Analysis of business policies/processes.
Train the Trainer programs on business communication and presentation

This is listed in his past experience and past employers:

- Management Training at Teamwork Consulting
- Instructional Design at Westpac Banking Corporation
- Oracle writing at Sydney Airport Corporation
- Training and Documentation at TACTICS Consulting Pty Ltd
- Systems Training at Telstra
- Technical Writing at Coles Myer Liquorland
- Technical Writer at Allianz Insurance
- Instructional Design at everis
- Business Communication & Technical Writing at Watchtower Legal NY
- Senior Technical Coordinator at Legal Department of Watchtower Society

More details about his employment at the Watchtower Society:

Business Communication & Technical Writing
Watchtower Legal NY
(Information Technology and Services industry)
August 1998 — March 1999 (8 months)
Senior Technical Coordinator
Legal Department of Watchtower Society
(Information Technology and Services industry)
January 1987 — January 1992 (5 years 1 month)
preparing documentation and conducting seminars on writing skills
Design and write 32-page plain English brochure on Charitable Planning and its
relationship to Government tax laws. Distributed throughout U.S.
Coordination and production of seminar materials, PowerPoint presentation
and Presenter's notes for Public Affairs Office for worldwide distribution; Technical Illustrators & Co. W.A.
Public relations role: liaison between client and company
Project management - coordinator of major documentation projects
Writing, artwork and production of Occupational Health and Safety manuals, Operations and Maintenance Manuals. Site visits to mines
Writing of corporate brochure and advertising materials
Achievements: Documentation project management (team of four) for new
CRA iron ore mine commissioning in the Pilbara region. Eighteen-month project.
Analysis, writing and editing with a resultant comprehensive range
of operating and procedure manuals for Channar Iron Ore mine

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Synthetic Blood in 2 Years? How Will the GB Shoot This Down?

by DarioKehl in

interesting read.

if they already allow "fractions," there's no way they can ban this.. here:www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/nhs-to-give-volunteers-synthetic-blood-made-in-a-laboratory-within-two-years-10343279.html.

OrphanCrow

I don't think that the WTS will be in favour of this kind of "synthetic blood".

They will say that it is prohibited because the source that is used to make the product is human blood.

As far as stem cells go, Jehovah's Witnesses have been treated with stem cell transplantation for years already.

For example, in 2004, the American Society of Clinical oncology published a study that treated 26 Jehovah's Witnesses with autologous stem cell transplantation.

Autologous Stem-Cell Transplantation Can Be Performed Safely Without the Use of Blood
Purpose Autologous stem-cell transplantation has been shown to be a curative procedure for a variety of leukemias and lymphomas. Most transplants require RBC and platelet support. We report the ability to perform autologous transplantation without blood-product support.
Subjects and Methods In this study, we treated 26 patients with religious objection to blood products with autologous stem-cell support without the use of any blood products. Patients received a combination of granulocyte colony-stimulating factor (G-CSF), erythropoietin, and interleukin-11 or G-CSF alone to mobilize stem cells. Post-transplant patients received intravenous iron, erythropoietin, G-CSF, and epsilon aminocaproic acid.
Results There were two major bleeding complications (8%), with two treatment-related deaths (8%). There were three minor bleeding complications (12%). The median fall in hemoglobin level was 4.7 g/dL; the median hemoglobin level 30 days after transplantation was 9.2 g/dL. The median total number of days with platelet count less than 10 × 109/L was 4 days; the median days to platelet recovery greater than 20 × 109/L was 12 days.
Conclusion Autologous stem-cell transplantation can be performed safely without the use of any blood products.

And a 2015 study published in the same journal:

Autologous Stem-Cell Transplantation Without Hematopoietic Support for the Treatment of Hematologic Malignancies in Jehovah's Witnesses

It appears that as long as the stem cell treatment does not use blood as a source, stem cell transplantation is not prohibited for Jehovah's Witnesses.

bafh: So technically, they are "manufactured" in that they came from a lab - but they are still blood cells. So my vote is they don't allow it even if it didn't come from a person or animal.

Hemopure, the synthetic blood (oxygen carrier/blood doping agent) made from bovine blood, is manufactured in a lab. Hemopure has WTS approval.

This one won't pass simply because the source is human blood. (and it might have something to do with the JWs who have interests in Hemopure).

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Jehovah's Witness woman refuses blood, then dies.

by Lee Elder in

another jehovah's witness woman has died while giving birth due to massive blood loss and refusing a blood transfusion.

she leaves nine children behind.

she finally consented to the transfusion but it was too late to save her.

OrphanCrow

vidiot: ..the life-saving potential for artificial transfusable blood is undeniable, but the WTS could potentially benefit from itso much (both ideologically and financially)

Yes, it is conflicting. The benefits of artificial blood are undeniable. However, those benefits do not extend to the exclusive use of artificial blood to sustain life. It is invaluable when blood is in short supply or a distance away - it is often used to keep somebody alive until they can access what really works - real blood.

In the meantime, it doesn't perform as well as real blood does. The WTS and the noblood propaganda, that is proliferated by those associated with the WTS, concentrates on the adverse reactions that are possible with real blood transfusions. What they neglect to say, though, is that adverse reactions when using Hemopure, occur more often than when using allogenic blood..

They always demonize real blood, and never reveal that artificial blood is riskier than allogenic blood.

The WTS, and the JW blood societies, misrepresent the facts about blood.

millie: When it comes to backing up what you post....
you really bring it!

Damn you, Millie! Lol! Now I had to go and find what I needed to back up my claim. I had to dig really deep.

From the wayback machine:

https://web.archive.org/web/20101209175544/http://www.bloodmanagement.org/content/blogsection/26/155

The Society for the Advancement of Blood Management (a JW society - the "father" of all other blood management societies) was targeting the following countries as far back as 2005: China, Croatia, Australia, New Zealand, Austria, Latvia and Namibia, Africa.

*And the JW blood boys were in Russia, too. Funny how the company that manufactures Hemopure moved to Russia right at the time that the WTS was trying to get legal status as a religion. When the WTS didn't get religious status, coincidentally, Biopure moved their main operations back to the States. Makes a person go hmmmmm, doesn't it?

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Jehovah's Witness woman refuses blood, then dies.

by Lee Elder in

another jehovah's witness woman has died while giving birth due to massive blood loss and refusing a blood transfusion.

she leaves nine children behind.

she finally consented to the transfusion but it was too late to save her.

OrphanCrow

millie: I can see this really taking off in African countries where there is so much fear of contamination in the blood supply which is scarce already.

Bloodless medicine and blood management is already established in many African locations. Shannon Farmer, and other JWs, have been grooming the African blood market for years*. Bloodless medicine is already there.

South Africa was the first country to give approval for artificial blood. Africa is a great market for alternative blood medicine.

(fun trivia fact - the industry that profited the most from the AIDs epidemic is the bloodless industry.)

* I have the documentation to support this...just not sure where it is right now... :)