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  Deposition of Richard Ashe

  by truthseekeriam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://watchtowerdocuments.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/lopez-11exhibit-8-to-dec-of-copley-iso-opp-to-plnts-mfs.pdf.

  did any of you guys sit down and read this??

  it's long but i assure you it's a great read.. .

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  OrphanCrow

  A. You can try to do a search for "do not destroy" but you'll come up with child abuse, you'll come up with adultery, you'll come up with bigamist marriage, you'll come up with slander, fraud, murder any abhorrent sin.

  O. It's that much sin going on in the Jehovah Witness?

  That bit really made me laugh.

  Me too.

  And the 'body builder' manual. Poor Ashe couldn't even use good enunciation when he was speaking - maybe someone should mark him down for that.

  Body of elders = Body Builders

  I can't wait for that manual to be released.

  
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  Gerrit Losch's "I DO NOT ANSWER TO WATCHTOWER"

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. social
  2. current

  in gerrit losch's public statement to the superior copurt of california.

  http://www.watchtower.exposed/?p=364.

  documents: https://www.dropbox.com/s/49zyexvagn7ux7j/losch%20public%20statement.jpg?dl=0.

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  OrphanCrow

  Is this not a fine line that the GB is walking?

  Correct me if I am wrong, but it appears like Losch is trying to distance the Jehovah's Witness 'religion' from the Watchtower Society in order to protect the WTS assets.

  But - doesn't this run the WTS into tax problems? If the WTS is 'at arm's length'...how long does that arm have to be before those other 'legal entities' owned by the WTS no longer are protected by religious exemption?
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  Obscene TOMO turd quote from talk.

  by hamsterbait in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on the thread about growth up but babble studies down thread, an audio of tomo turd has been posted.

  can somebody put it in this separate thread - it's important.. he says how billions of innocent children and other inoffensive people will not get to enjoy their ice cream, as they are about to be annihilated.

  they count less than mere "amuse - bouches".. what reward will all those get who peel off their tight pants and spanx before it is too late?.

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  OrphanCrow

  Yes, it is in Tony's talk. He first mentions ice cream at 00:37.

  He is speaking of all those people who aren't JWs:

  ...all they have is a little bit of joy; all they have is a little bit of ice cream...

  And then he goes on to tell everybody how Jehovah is better than ice cream.

  I scream

  you scream

  we all scream

  for ice cream

  Maybe Tony should start singing the ice cream song.
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  German Website

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://jessussirach.jimdo.com/.

  a few years ago, i found some youtube videos that had been made by a german exjw.

  i really liked his videos, both the ones he did about the german jws and the other videos he posted (im himmel and pompfinewra are incredible).

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  OrphanCrow

  http://jessussirach.jimdo.com/videos-%C3%BCber-jz-i/
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  German Website

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://jessussirach.jimdo.com/.

  a few years ago, i found some youtube videos that had been made by a german exjw.

  i really liked his videos, both the ones he did about the german jws and the other videos he posted (im himmel and pompfinewra are incredible).

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  OrphanCrow

  It is not all in German.

  The video The True Story Behind Caleb is in English.
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  German Website

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://jessussirach.jimdo.com/.

  a few years ago, i found some youtube videos that had been made by a german exjw.

  i really liked his videos, both the ones he did about the german jws and the other videos he posted (im himmel and pompfinewra are incredible).

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  OrphanCrow

  http://jessussirach.jimdo.com/

  A few years ago, I found some youtube videos that had been made by a German exJW. I really liked his videos, both the ones he did about the German JWs and the other videos he posted (Im Himmel and Pompfinewra are incredible). I was very disappointed when I discovered that his videos had been removed from youtube over copyright violations.

  I am pretty excited to find out that I can still access his material.

  I thought that our German members will be able to appreciate these - jessussirach's library of videos, photos and text is extensive. I am sure it will keep you busy for some time. I only wish I could read and speak German.

  Enjoy!
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  Deposition of Richard Ashe

  by truthseekeriam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://watchtowerdocuments.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/lopez-11exhibit-8-to-dec-of-copley-iso-opp-to-plnts-mfs.pdf.

  did any of you guys sit down and read this??

  it's long but i assure you it's a great read.. .

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  OrphanCrow

  Here is something I am curious about.

  Do the Watchtower men have their own bible they bring in to court to lay their hand on and swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

  Do they use the court bible or do they bring their Silver Sword to court with them?
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  Deposition of Richard Ashe

  by truthseekeriam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://watchtowerdocuments.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/lopez-11exhibit-8-to-dec-of-copley-iso-opp-to-plnts-mfs.pdf.

  did any of you guys sit down and read this??

  it's long but i assure you it's a great read.. .

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  OrphanCrow

  Ashe was not on a witness stand in a court room. This is out of court testimony.

  It's part of the discovery process pre-trail. There was not a judge present.

  You are absolutely right. I got caught up with the response and fell into the comment made as to why the judge didn't stop the objections. Sorry.

  Very telling that the wt attorneys objected at almost every question.

  That is their job. They are supposed to object when there are things said in the question that are a point of issue.

  What I got from the objections is that the concern was over the term 'policy' as opposed to 'beliefs and practices'. And, the other concern was when the term 'organization' was used - especially if 'Watchtower Society' was referred to instead of Jehovah's Witnesses. There seemed to be a matter of which 'part' of that organization was being referred to in the question. These are critical legal points when it comes to determining lines of authority.
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  Deposition of Richard Ashe

  by truthseekeriam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://watchtowerdocuments.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/lopez-11exhibit-8-to-dec-of-copley-iso-opp-to-plnts-mfs.pdf.

  did any of you guys sit down and read this??

  it's long but i assure you it's a great read.. .

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  OrphanCrow

  It is not exactly what was said. It is what the recorder heard. Let's get real. Zalkin never referred to a "body builders" letter. He referred to "body of elders" letter but the recorder misheard and repeatedly entered "body builders letter.

  There are obvious errors. This is just one example.

  That is correct. That is what the recorder heard. And what the recorder wrote down.

  Yes, it is the wrong word. We know that. But it was how the word was pronounced in the courtroom that led to that error.

  This is a typical court document.

  I don't understand the problem people are having reading it. This is what court transcripts look like and read like.
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  Deposition of Richard Ashe

  by truthseekeriam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://watchtowerdocuments.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/lopez-11exhibit-8-to-dec-of-copley-iso-opp-to-plnts-mfs.pdf.

  did any of you guys sit down and read this??

  it's long but i assure you it's a great read.. .

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  OrphanCrow

  I may be asking the unreasonable, but context should be important for a stenographer too.

  Sorry...but context has absolutely zero to do with court transcribing.

  Giving the stenographer the leeway to add 'context' would sabotage the intent of the transcription.

  A transcript is meant to free of bias. Giving the stenographer that leeway would add bias to what was said.