Yes, welcome.
I've seen many of your videos and I share a similar pain as you.
I look forward to meeting you.
just wanted to say hello since i am new to this forum.
allow myself to introduce myself.
lol.
Yes, welcome.
I've seen many of your videos and I share a similar pain as you.
I look forward to meeting you.
soliciting any and all opinions.
as some of you may know, wife is full in pioneer.
my fade has gone from us fighting.
It's been very difficult between my wife and I over the last 4.5 years.
I left for good in 2013.
I never held back telling her everything I learned.
I was scared I'd lose her and this caused much stress.
We are committed to each other now more than ever, but she still wants to be a JW.
I won't stop her. I remind her that it was the control that finally caught up with me and I would be wrong to attempt controlling her.
I fully agree about mentally preparing for the worst.
I read a topic last night and heard the phrase again this morning from my wife herself. "Having a soft place to land".
Put that in place before you go "full disclosure". That's was my big mistake. I survived it, but it could have been less painful.
so the other day i was walking through the huge local regional outlet shopping mall.
i see this sign "how do deal with anxiety" didn't take very long at all to confirm it was a jw booth.. that sign bothered me.
do jw actually think they have something to say about anxiety?
the internet is the archive for civilization.. watchtower cannot hide it's history.. are we seeing the beginning of a mass exodus out of her?.
thinking of leaving the jws for good is frightening.engaging a quality fade is nerve racking!there can be horrible consequences that can leave one shunned.even the most careful fade can be undone by many means and loved ones.. one must weigh the consequences of leaving with true freedom.yes, that kind.
where you always make the decisions in your own life.. no need to be reckless and wild to destruction.
be like almost everyone else in society that enjoys life to the full and looks out for their fellow.look around you at happy, friendly people in your community.
Thank you for the nice replies.
I seem to remember hearing a talk a while back how being a JW was "true freedom" or some madness.
How can living under mind control be freedom?
could this be a "wake up trigger" question to a nosy elder?.
"how many pedophile lawsuits are the wts legal team currently defending?".
how would/could they answer?why should the answer be secret?.
Still looking for some idea of the trouble WT is facing.
Could it be more than 100 world wide?
That would seem low to me.
Can someone please call "Legal" and get a straight answer?
this is in the july 2015 monthly program on tv.jw.org cedars wrote about it too.. starting at around 42:30 in the video, morris talks about the child abuse situation for almost 10 minutes.
link to video.
i'm writing a transcript right now.
this is in the july 2015 monthly program on tv.jw.org cedars wrote about it too.. starting at around 42:30 in the video, morris talks about the child abuse situation for almost 10 minutes.
link to video.
i'm writing a transcript right now.
I listened to the introduction first.
I detected the voice of someone that was forced to do this.
Total lack of interest and sincerity.
This guy is broken. Listen to him.
Something BIG is coming. He sounds defeated.
Where is his jovial, arrogant, judgmental and insulting talk now?
Avalanche of lawsuits, i'm thinking.
And no money to pay the settlements. So sad...
to all of you in the usa i wish you a safe and happy "independence day" and many more of them!.
cheers.
zeb .
I played live music at an outdoor, community 4th of July celebration today.
I'm sure this is big "no-no", but I must confess, brothers ( gag ). I stood and sang along with the "Star Spangled Banner". Even shed a "secret tear". ( Idolatry? )
Must say, it felt much better than tormenting poor unsuspecting householders with unwanted commentary on how "God's Kingdom" is so much better than the USA...
thinking of leaving the jws for good is frightening.engaging a quality fade is nerve racking!there can be horrible consequences that can leave one shunned.even the most careful fade can be undone by many means and loved ones.. one must weigh the consequences of leaving with true freedom.yes, that kind.
where you always make the decisions in your own life.. no need to be reckless and wild to destruction.
be like almost everyone else in society that enjoys life to the full and looks out for their fellow.look around you at happy, friendly people in your community.
Thinking of leaving the JWs for good is frightening.
Engaging a quality fade is nerve racking!
There can be horrible consequences that can leave one shunned.
Even the most careful fade can be undone by many means and loved ones.
One must weigh the consequences of leaving with true freedom.
Yes, that kind. Where YOU always make the decisions in YOUR own life.
No need to be reckless and wild to destruction.
Be like ALMOST everyone else in society that enjoys life to the full and looks out for their fellow.
Look around you at happy, friendly people in your community.
So many potential friends to meet if you are interested.
None of us chose where we were born, our sex, race, etc.
For many of us, JW life was no exception.
The REAL LIFE.
It's right in front of us all.
It will only be what you make of it or allow to develop.
Don't get stuck without control of all aspects of your one and only life.
I'd love to hear from survivors that went through Gehenna® to get out of the ORG and only wish they had acted sooner. Getting out is tough.
Being free is worth any cost. ( Que 4th of July, fireworks and the Star Spangled Banner )