designs - you've basically repeated your point about 500 years of history, a point I accepted in my previous post. I feel that you've chosen to ingore the points and questions in this post.
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Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown
by Simon inafter a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.
let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .
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Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown
by Simon inafter a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.
let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .
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Your point about the last 500 years - slavery, historical and contemporary ill-treatment of black people - must be a factor in this and therefore is also accepted.
Speaking of Charles Dickens, I myself come from a working class background - I'm the first from my dad's side of the family to go to uni. My mum's side are on the lowest rung of middle class at best and some went to uni. However, I don't hate posh people on sight or begrudge them their life-style - it's the hand they're dealt with, they're just people with all the good points and bad points as anyone else.
Also, how far back in history is too far? At some point a line has to be drawn, no? I'm an Englishman, does that mean I should carry resentment NOW towards modern Danes for what Danish vikings did to my Saxon ancestors?
I mentioned Joe Frazier (RIP) earlier in this thread and feel the need to mention his name again. He was Gullah, geechee, from a poor background in racist South Carolina. He had every excuse/reason to hate all white people on sight and feel sorry for himself. But he took advantage of the opportunity given him as an American and through sheer determination succeeded. IMO he should be held up as a model for all disadvantaged Americans - black and white.
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Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown
by Simon inafter a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.
let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .
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You make a good point, designs. Waiving/cutting tuition fees for poor black people (or poor people of any colour) seems reasonable enough.
But I still feel the elephant in the room is ignored - it seems in both the US and the UK that black people are absurdly over-represented as victims and perps of violent crime. What's the deal? Is it cultural? Lack of good father figures? Is this refusing to toe the line arrogance?
I feel it's a shame the situation is as it is. Here in England, I remember reading about a little Indian girl who was shot in the head, caught in the cross-fire between rival black gang members in Brixton. Shortly after, some members of the 'black community' put a text message out entitled 'don't snitch' - absolutely disgusting.
I speak as a white guy who has known several (~20) black people as friends and work colleagues over the years. They were all nice, decent people except one, IMO.
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Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown
by Simon inafter a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.
let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .
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Ok designs, thank you.
So the slogan 'black lives don't matter' becomes reasonably accurate - not among cops but in da hood.
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At This Point In Time Would You Ever Subject Yourself To A Judicial Committee?
by minimus ini certainly wouldn't.
and if the elders wanted to have a meeting with me, i would respectfully decline.
if the elders wanted to deal with you, would you talk with them?.
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I would never, repeat NEVER, subject myself to a JC again. They're ridiculous kangeroo courts - the JCs I read about here when lurking were far worse than mine.
I live within the law of the land and am lucky to live in a Western country. The elders, GB, WTS have no jurisdiction over me. End of.
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Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown
by Simon inafter a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.
let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .
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'Since Michael Brown's death 14 teens have been killed by police officers' - very sad and these deaths should be investigated but how many black people have been killed by other black people in the same timeframe?
Anyone?
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Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown
by Simon inafter a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.
let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .
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'and as if there is mental health issues involved ?'
Exactly the same - the person gets a chance to respond to police instruction. If the mentally-ill person fails to respond then they run the risk of getting shot, too.
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Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown
by Simon inafter a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.
let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .
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'Is it too much to expect that police officers who are trained with using guns to use these guns in a non-lethal way like shooting at the legs or shoulders of perpetraters who they are trying to subdue . ?' - yes, it is. Pistols are difficult to aim, and limbs become a blur. Adrenaline/nerves also make things difficult. The torso is the easiest target.
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Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown
by Simon inafter a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.
let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .
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@Finkelstein
I accept your correction - Wilson was of similar height but much lighter in weight than MB.
'How on earth are the police supposed to do their job if people are free to attack them?' - well said. What's a cop supposed to do if a suspect refuses orders and continues to charge?
This seems to be a case of suicide by cop.
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Officer Wilson not indicted in killing of Michael Brown
by Simon inafter a thorough investigation and weighing of the evidence the grand jury has decided not to indict the officer.. the reaction so far seems as predicted - people refuse to accept that the result represents justice despite claims that is what they wanted.. there is now violence and vandalism, including gunshots.
let's hope the police contain the troublemakers.. .
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'Wilson was also a big guy of 6' 4" over 215' - eh? I read he was 5' 7 and 170lb.