Ignoranceisbliss

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  JWs - A View From Outside

  by Joe Grundy in

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  i never was a jw (i make this point in - almost - every post) but having been brought up ('raised' for our us cousins) in a non-conformist fundy sect with 'rapture' aspirations, it wasn't that different.. i still have extended family members in it, or in that mindset, but we rarely discuss religion.

  in particular, my sister and bil lost their son (my nephew) some years ago when he was just 13. their comfort is that he is in a 'better place' and i don't want to challenge that to them.. i keep up with all things jw here in this forum and maintain my academic interest and these are just my thoughts as an outsider, for what they are worth.. ime, those people who have heard of jws tend to lump them in with mormons and other crazies and have no knowledge or interest in them - other than to warn neighbours when they are about.. where i live should be prime 'witnessing' territory but they rarely come round, even in the recent leafletting campaign.

  they are not as effective as the people who regularly call with the latest menus from the local curry/chinese/kebab houses.. on the occasions when jws have called, despite invitations to come in and have a cup of tea, etc., none has ever wanted to engage in conversation, far less progress to an invitation to a kh meeting or start a bible study (and i always present myself as an 'imterested householder').. my conversations with people in general and friends in the real world lead me to conclude that few people have heard of jws, those that have regard them as a minor irrevelant nuisance and that there is no interest in their message or beliefs.. a few months ago i did a 'drive-past' of the million pound seafront property in bangor, north wales that wt recently bought for use as a 'translation office' (ha ha!).

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  Ignoranceisbliss

  Thanks joe. Thanks an interesting perspective.
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  Zone Visit feedback, from ones still in??

  by Crazyguy in

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  just wondering if any one has heard from ones still asleep, what their feedback has been and what comments have been made by the rank and file??.

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  Ignoranceisbliss

  I saw a facebook post from a good looking sister. she posted a photo of awful looking workout attire. Almost Pentecostal. Skirts and such. She said this is what she was gonna have to wear from now on. I'm pretty confident she was being sarcastic. At least I hope so.
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  My Parents have gone FULL CULT MODE! Having a job is SATANIC!

  by BU2B in

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  to give a little background, my parents are in their late 50s.

  around a year ago, my elder dad got laid off from his job.

  he worked as a auto mechanic making ok money.

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  Ignoranceisbliss

  Great comment Steve. You're right. My parents are 62 and my dad has another eight years of work left. I refuse to be in that same situation.
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  My Parents have gone FULL CULT MODE! Having a job is SATANIC!

  by BU2B in

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  to give a little background, my parents are in their late 50s.

  around a year ago, my elder dad got laid off from his job.

  he worked as a auto mechanic making ok money.

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  Ignoranceisbliss

  Are your parents close to social security age?
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  JC's and recordings?

  by punkofnice in

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  i know there are recordings out there of jcs and more to come.

  i imagine the average drone wouldn't dream of recording a jc but those who are aware of the tatt might record jcs if they bother to attend.. i'm wondering (yes, another idle speculation post...sorreeeeeee), with the advent of more being recorded if the wbt$ will change their tack on how jcs are conducted?

  leave it the same?.

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  Ignoranceisbliss

  I have already purchased my hidden recorder and have it ready to go. Hopefully I never need to use it.
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  Girls names

  by FeelingFree in

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  ok so i know its not really anything to do with jwness but we are struggling with baby names and really can't think of one we both like.

  its getting a bit desperate as i'm due in about 8 weeks .. i'm getting bored of looking at the same old names on the baby names websites so any suggestions would be much appreciated (girls please).. **cash prize for the one we choose!

  ** ....... no not really lol.. .

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  Ignoranceisbliss

  Camden. cammie for short. Also like Charlie for a girl.
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  Why the WTBTS is liable for Sex Abuse Cases

  by Coded Logic in

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  the problem isn't just that kids are getting raped by people in their congregation.

  the problem's also that anytime someone has "serrious charges" brought against them the elders add notes to that jws publisher file.

  and, if the elders don't take the matter to the police or, as is often the case, tell the victims families not to take it to the police either, this establishes a level of accountability.. take daniel fitzwater for example.

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  Ignoranceisbliss

  Got it. Fair enough. Regardless you are right. Molestation is an awful crime and should be reported as such. It's an awful thing that ruins peoples life's. I hope that the lawsuits against the Borg keep coming.

  I guess that my original point is that as a parent I couldn't imagine not going to police if someone molested my kids. I would do all that I could to destroy the molesters life.
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  Why the WTBTS is liable for Sex Abuse Cases

  by Coded Logic in

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  the problem isn't just that kids are getting raped by people in their congregation.

  the problem's also that anytime someone has "serrious charges" brought against them the elders add notes to that jws publisher file.

  and, if the elders don't take the matter to the police or, as is often the case, tell the victims families not to take it to the police either, this establishes a level of accountability.. take daniel fitzwater for example.

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  Ignoranceisbliss

  Just kidding. I wasn't trying to be sneaky. Just wasn't happy with what I wrote.
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  Why the WTBTS is liable for Sex Abuse Cases

  by Coded Logic in

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  the problem isn't just that kids are getting raped by people in their congregation.

  the problem's also that anytime someone has "serrious charges" brought against them the elders add notes to that jws publisher file.

  and, if the elders don't take the matter to the police or, as is often the case, tell the victims families not to take it to the police either, this establishes a level of accountability.. take daniel fitzwater for example.

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  Ignoranceisbliss

  I definitly agree that the org has some culpability. Where I have questions is where is the line drawn between a parents responsibility and the OrGs.
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  When did you start getting ANGRY?

  by Separation of Powers in

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  when i started the fade....i recognize that i was upset, mainly because of the desillusionment.

  but, over the course of the past several months, i am noticing an increasing anger toward all thing org.

  it can only be described as indignation, not simply upset.

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  Ignoranceisbliss

  I wasn't angry until about a week ago. A 35 year old man died after refusing blood in our area. He was a father of a ten year old. He would of probably died eventually anyways, but we will never know. The effects of this organization can be drastic. I heard people praising his decision to "stand firm".