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  The Time Is Coming For Progressive Governments To Make Laws Against Oppressive Cults To Protect It's Citizens, Making Lawsuits More Plentiful Against Them

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i think as black&white thinking becomes lesser governments will start makeing laws that will put cults open for more lawsuits.

  what do you think..

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  frankiespeakin

  Also consider the effects that good legislation on proper conduct that a "non profit charity" must display toward members/unpaidvolunteers/ to make sure abusive cults don't use fraudulent means to recruit volunteers. Mandatory audits, whistle blower policies that forbid or make illegal disfellowshipping member who disagree with upper management and are aware of fraud and are informing other member about the fraud.

  Think of that type of legislation as not only a way of putting and end to the abuse of the WT corporation but as a prevention of future abuse from even developing.
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  The Time Is Coming For Progressive Governments To Make Laws Against Oppressive Cults To Protect It's Citizens, Making Lawsuits More Plentiful Against Them

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i think as black&white thinking becomes lesser governments will start makeing laws that will put cults open for more lawsuits.

  what do you think..

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  frankiespeakin

  Band,

  The desire for more fairness is laudable. There are other paths to take besides empowering a government bureaucrat to make religious decisions for Americans.

  Yes and that is what I'm saying fairness and no special treatment for religion, or 'non profit religious charities' let them be audited, and prove that they are a bonified charity, and have proper guidelines for charities to follow or else loss their tax exempt staus. If it is an abusive religious charity hold them legally libel for the abuse and give members who have been abused by any charity a legal recourse to sue or press criminal charges irreguardless of if they are a religion. Which I think is the way things are going in the more progressive governments, and which is more in line with fairness and allows no one to use religion as a shelter from prosecution for fraud, misappropriation of fund collected, and a host of other types of wrong doing.
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  Society money grab tonight

  by Red Piller in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  wow.

  you read about it here.

  but, it still doesn't prepare you.. our hall passed a resolution to give about 15,000 to the wt.

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  frankiespeakin

  I'm still wondering about the legality of this big money grab by the Watchtower corporation, I think they may have to give it back after an audit. At least I hope so it sounds so much like robbery I can't see how they can get away with it.
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  The Time Is Coming For Progressive Governments To Make Laws Against Oppressive Cults To Protect It's Citizens, Making Lawsuits More Plentiful Against Them

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i think as black&white thinking becomes lesser governments will start makeing laws that will put cults open for more lawsuits.

  what do you think..

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  frankiespeakin

  Who decides what is human decency? Why? Far, far worse than the WT would emerge in record time.

  Don't you think your'e a little over stating your point. Rerain from the exaggerations and paranoia, over this word and get back on track please. A sort of whistle blower(now mainly for audit purposes) type of protection should be incorporated in any legitimate charity only the whistle blower could be informing not just government agencies but be enlarged to enclude hindering members from being informed by a whistle blower of the charity/fraud/deception being committed on them to solicit funds, or get free labor of them and their children to push corporation products.
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  The Time Is Coming For Progressive Governments To Make Laws Against Oppressive Cults To Protect It's Citizens, Making Lawsuits More Plentiful Against Them

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i think as black&white thinking becomes lesser governments will start makeing laws that will put cults open for more lawsuits.

  what do you think..

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  frankiespeakin

  I used human decency as a bad choice, even inhumane is not what I'm looking for but the general direction. Something along the lines of abusive treatment would be more like it, or proper conduct toward a member or volunteer of said "corporation" by upper management.
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  The Time Is Coming For Progressive Governments To Make Laws Against Oppressive Cults To Protect It's Citizens, Making Lawsuits More Plentiful Against Them

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i think as black&white thinking becomes lesser governments will start makeing laws that will put cults open for more lawsuits.

  what do you think..

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  frankiespeakin

  Band,

  There is no magic formula for what is a cult.

  Nor need there be on this issue just make laws without the word cult, human decency laws that apply to organizations reguardless if they are a claimed religion without singling out abusive cults.

  The Watchtower Corporation has clearly crossed the line of human decency by the way they treat those who leave even depriving them of fellowship with parents and children if either party is guilty of Corporation disloyalty, I'm sure religious freedom issues need not even be address if the laws are properly writen and maybe they are already on the books I don't know but a real legal eagle would.
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  The Time Is Coming For Progressive Governments To Make Laws Against Oppressive Cults To Protect It's Citizens, Making Lawsuits More Plentiful Against Them

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i think as black&white thinking becomes lesser governments will start makeing laws that will put cults open for more lawsuits.

  what do you think..

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  frankiespeakin

  Jw,

  I believe the answer is for governments to be active in taking religious groups to court when they break specific laws.

  Yes, and the laws are changing to allow for more lawsuits. Ill treatment of members who leave I think will be a major factor in progressive laws that allow x members to sue them in the near future being the tremendous amount of fraud and vilification of innocent people in all their publications. All it takes is some cleverly writen laws to shut their disfellowshipping trap and open them up for lawsuits for events that happened in the past and present thus taking away their power and driving them bankrupt.
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  The Time Is Coming For Progressive Governments To Make Laws Against Oppressive Cults To Protect It's Citizens, Making Lawsuits More Plentiful Against Them

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i think as black&white thinking becomes lesser governments will start makeing laws that will put cults open for more lawsuits.

  what do you think..

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  frankiespeakin

  Flying,

  The question they have to answer is: where do we draw the line?

  Good point, I think the line will be drawn with human decency, and proper conduct of a non profit charity, just tax them, audit them, and prosecute them for their crimes, without showing any favoritism because they hide behind some religious dogma, treat them no different than any business who claims to be a charity with no special priviledges for their God dellusion.

  I think the Laid Off Circut&District Overseer's could make a good case against the the Watchtower Corporation, for their shitty serverance package.
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  The Time Is Coming For Progressive Governments To Make Laws Against Oppressive Cults To Protect It's Citizens, Making Lawsuits More Plentiful Against Them

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i think as black&white thinking becomes lesser governments will start makeing laws that will put cults open for more lawsuits.

  what do you think..

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  frankiespeakin

  Lossing tax exemption would be proper for a charitable organization fraud. I'm sure all these judicial meetings and disfellowshippings, separating children from parents, fobbidding blood transfussions of its members with the threat of disfellowshippings, will remove it in time.
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  Could the Governing Body Courageous Fight Suicide Bombers Targeting Them like Coptic Christians are dealing with?

  by BucketShopBill in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with all the hateful speech the watchtower has used against anyone who disagrees with them, what if they pissed off a group of jws that decided they needed to change the watchtower because they felt they were apostates?

  what do you think would happen, would the governing body antagonize this break-away cult and stand their ground or make peace with a well armed jw militia ready to do battle?.

  what if a cult emerged from the big cult and declared war on the governing body and called them apostates who deserve to die?

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  frankiespeakin

  I'm sure the CIA has been observing the Watchtower Corporation and have a huge file on them after all they threaten national security with their call for obedience above national goals for its citizens. They are on the radar and so are xjw sites so they know what is going on with the comunity. So this would be very plausible be a matter of national security to which they would take some preventive measures(waco texas being on a learning curve on how to handle "authority" cults stock pileing weapons.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege