i never knew that the famous new england theologian jonathan edwards spent some years as a missionary to the red indian tribes.
there are various modern ideas as to how one should preach to those completely ignorant of christ and the way of salvation, but edwards had confidence that the gospel is the power of god unto salvation for all people.
perhaps someday those still living in pagan lands will accept christ and share in the blessings of america.
Hey freddo!
All that and a triple jump Olympic gold medallist too!
In his early days he refused to compete on a Sunday, but then he gave up a TV job presenting a religious programme because...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1542391/Olympian-Jonathan-Edwards-has-crisis-of-faith.html
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/jonathan-edwards-ive-taken-leap-3190574
one comment-giver during the rules study, remarked that ww1 was predicted by wt to arrive in 1914, despite the fact that everyone expected an era of unparalleled peace.. this was something continuously drilled into our heads - how peaceful everything was prior to ww1.. when you look at wt library under 'world war i' - "unexpected" - the results are all offline - there are no recent references ( unexpected: re 106; w92 5/1 4-5; yb87 124; w86 2/15 5; w86 11/1 6 ).
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200276290.
the offline quotes are as follows:.
I would move that, with the advent of techological advances at that times, and the general detachment that the domestic market generally had of international affairs at a time - a time of no TV and very slow moving news. That despite what was going on politically on the international stage - with the huge number of alliances and treaties being made in order to avoid a major war - the view of the man (and woman) in the street was one of detachment and feelings of peace - and a faith in the political system to avoid a war, at least on home soil and/or the home army. Remember you are not talking just about July 1914, but rather the years leading up to it.
My history books are stored away, but below is an interesting piece which partly explains the contradictory nature of this - the principle of 'you stop war, by preparing for it.'
International relations of the Great Powers (1814–1919)
Coming of World War
The main causes of World War I, which broke out unexpectedly in central Europe in summer 1914, included many factors, such as the conflicts and hostility of the four decades leading up to the war. Militarism, alliances, imperialism, and ethnic nationalism played major roles. However the immediate origins of the war lay in the decisions taken by statesmen and generals during the Crisis of 1914, which was sparked by the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand (the Archduke of Austria Hungary) by a Serbian secret organization, the Black Hand.
By the 1870s or 1880s all the major powers were preparing for a large-scale war, although none expected one. Britain focused on building up its Royal Navy, already stronger than the next two navies combined. Germany, France, Austria, Italy and Russia, and some smaller countries, set up conscription systems whereby young men would serve from 1 to 3 years in the army, then spend the next 20 years or so in the reserves with annual summer training. Men from higher social statuses became officers.
this notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.
a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.
the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.
Hi steve2
It will be interesting to check the 2017 Yearbook to see how many congregations there are in the USA compared with the 2016 Yearbook.
It'll be back to 2014....
|
2008 Yearbook |
12,494 congregations in USA |
|
2009 |
12,635 |
|
2010 |
12,800 |
|
2011 |
12,995 |
|
2012 |
13,309 |
|
2013 |
13,546 |
|
2014 |
13,714 |
|
2015 |
13,871 |
|
2016 |
14,063 |
read barbara grizzuti harrison's vision of glory, online, for free at.
https://web.archive.org/web/20051217183855/http://www.exjws.net/vg.htm.
i understand that barbara gave her permission to publish her book for free at the above website - i don't think it is available else where??.
Read Barbara Grizzuti Harrison's Vision of Glory, online, for free at
https://web.archive.org/web/20051217183855/http://www.exjws.net/vg.htm
I understand that Barbara gave her permission to publish her book for free at the above website - I don't think it is available else where??
my daughter is an ex jw as are all my children and my wife.
she works at university and as seems to be the case with uni staff, always looking for another degree to obtain.
she has had some suggestions and is keen on something along the lines of research into cults such as wt and scientology, more specifically why so many former jws fo example, are living with the need to destroy and oppose quite loudly the wt.
Hi steve2
Then there is the crème de la crème of ex-JW books, Barbara Gruzitto Harrison's (I'm just about to look up the title)
Nathan Natas said:
Barbara gave Randy Watters permission to publish "Visions of Glory" on line where I expect it will be enjoyed by the current "generation" of soon to be X JWs.
You can read it for free.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/30356/_post/392131
edited to add - check out:
robert “big sonny” edwards of the intruders -- the soul vocal group best known for the chart-topping r&b single “cowboys to girls” -- has died.. as one of the first acts signed to gamble & huff’s fledgling gamble label, the intruders scored a string of r&b hits from the mid-’60s through the early '70s -- and simultaneously set the stage for the writing/production duo’s pioneering philly soul sound and the establishment of the legendary philadelphia international label.. memorial services will be held on oct. 29 at kingdom hall of jehovah’s witnesses (noon et) in philadelphia.. .
http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/hip-hop/7549038/the-intruders-robert-big-sonny-edwards-dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtepd1af4_i.
haha, way before my time - but I appreciate the historical significance with the 'Philly sound'
you?
from the times of london website.
south korea court frees jehovah’s witnesses who refused to serve in military.
two south korean men who refused to do military service have had their convictions overturned in a landmark ruling against the government.. [snip].
Hi My Name is of No Consequence
We probably won't see this in the Watchtower. When was the last time they printed something about a jw being freed from prison? Rutherford in 1919?
Yearbook 2014, page 30
ARMENIA
The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) rendered a favorable judgment on November 27, 2012, in the case of Khachatryan and Others v. Armenia. The government had brought unlawful criminal proceedings against 17 Witnesses for refusing to perform alternative civilian service under the control of the military. Armenia has paid compensation as well as legal expenses to the victims of this unlawful action.Despite the favorable ruling in Khachatryan and the earlier landmark judgment in Bayatyan v. Armenia, as well as subsequent ECHR judgments, the Armenian government continued to prosecute and convict young Witness conscientious objectors. However, on June 8, 2013, the government passed amendments to the Alternative Service Law that seem to eliminate military control and supervision of alternative service. All imprisoned Witness conscientious objectors were released by November 12, 2013, and young Witness men who apply for alternative service are having their applications granted.
robert “big sonny” edwards of the intruders -- the soul vocal group best known for the chart-topping r&b single “cowboys to girls” -- has died.. as one of the first acts signed to gamble & huff’s fledgling gamble label, the intruders scored a string of r&b hits from the mid-’60s through the early '70s -- and simultaneously set the stage for the writing/production duo’s pioneering philly soul sound and the establishment of the legendary philadelphia international label.. memorial services will be held on oct. 29 at kingdom hall of jehovah’s witnesses (noon et) in philadelphia.. .
http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/hip-hop/7549038/the-intruders-robert-big-sonny-edwards-dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtepd1af4_i.
Robert “Big Sonny” Edwards of The Intruders -- the soul vocal group best known for the chart-topping R&B single “Cowboys to Girls” -- has died.
As one of the first acts signed to Gamble & Huff’s fledgling Gamble label, The Intruders scored a string of R&B hits from the mid-’60s through the early '70s -- and simultaneously set the stage for the writing/production duo’s pioneering Philly soul sound and the establishment of the legendary Philadelphia International label.
Memorial services will be held on Oct. 29 at Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses (noon ET) in Philadelphia.
their "chapel of love," written by phil spector, ellie greenwich and jeff barry, supplanted the beatles' "love me do" as the no.
1 song on both the pop and r&b charts.
a memorial is planned at the kingdom hall of jehovah's witnesses on oct. 18.. .
Their "Chapel of Love," written by Phil Spector, Ellie Greenwich and Jeff Barry, supplanted the Beatles' "Love Me Do" as the No. 1 song on both the pop and R&B charts.
A memorial is planned at the Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses on Oct. 18.
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7541035/joan-marie-johnson-dixie-cups-obit
this notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.
a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.
the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.
At least 30,000 to see their congregation dissolved this year in the USA
Using the facts and figures as revealed right here on this forum - the TRUE HUMAN COST of the Governing Body's 'Masterplan' - as currently being implemented by the Local Design/Construction Department based in the newly built Warwick compound - can now be revealed.
And that human cost is AT LEAST THIRTY THOUSAND publishers are on course to be made spiritually homeless this year alone in the US when their congregation is officially dissolved.
That explosive figure of 30,000 – which represents 346 congregations - is the equivalent to the TOTAL number of publishers in the whole of the Netherlands or Costa Rica.
Recent information revealed here showed that AT LEAST 5 - yes FIVE! - congregations had been dissolved WITHOUT WARNING in the Pelican State of Louisiana.
IT’S A FACT! Looking at those 5 congregations in a state of 4.65 million within a JW territory of 321.7 million and an average number of 1,195,081 publishers attending a total of 14,063 congregations - and you arrive at 30,000 publishers in 346 congregations being dissolved - the human cost EXPOSED with some simple maths.
