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Latest from the ARC
by zeb ina new research report conducted for the royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse has examined available evidence regarding the characteristics, motivations and offending behaviour of child sexual abuse perpetrators in both institutional and non-institutional contexts.
royal commission acting ceo, marianne christmann, said the report, evidence and frameworks for understanding perpetrators of institutional child sexual abuse, explores the principal themes found in the literature and examines research specific to perpetrators of child sexual abuse in institutional settings.
this report demonstrates that it is possible to identify commonalities in the characteristics of studied adult perpetrators of child sexual abuse and children or young people with harmful sexual behaviours.
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Announcement from SPAIN: On Monday, the 26th online in the a.m. in the online edition of www.elperiodico.es...
by AndersonsInfo inannouncement from spain:.
on monday 26th septriembre, www.elperiodico.es published in its online edition the first publicly reported case of child abuse and harassment in spain watchtower, digital edition monday, tuesday print edition.
please maximum dissemination of the link, it will be online early in the morning of monday 26, in the online edition.
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darkspilver
From today's (Thursday 29 September 2016) print edition of the Spanish language El Periódico - the following two articles (as posted yesterday in this thread) are spread over the whole of page 32:
The shadow of Jehovah's Witnesses
Discounting the use of bold in the text, which is different from the online version - It also appears that the content/wording of the 'faith' article has been slightly edited in the printed edition - if so, it would be good to have a copy of the printed version (hint, hint, MIguel Garcia.....)
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Lowell Goddard - ‘treated sex abuse victims with contempt’
by darkspilver infull page width headline along top of page 14 of the uk's observer newspaper (sunday 14 august 2016) states.
judge ‘treated sex abuse victims with contempt’lowell goddard accused by lawyer of walking off inquiry before ruling on victims’ applications.
remainder of article appears to be the same as online version that is now available at:.
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Oh well, front page of today's The Times (Thursday 29 September 2016) kinda says it:
'Arrogant' top lawyer suspended from child sex abuse inquiry in latest crisis to hit £100m investigation
The senior lawyer to the national child abuse inquiry has been suspended from his £400,000-a-year post, plunging the investigation into its worst crisis yet.
Ben Emmerson QC was removed over concerns about his leadership, the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA) said in a statement.
Abuse inquiry in tatters after lawyer suspended
The head of the national sex abuse inquiry suspended its top lawyer last night as the £100 million investigation descended into acrimony.
Alexis Jay, chairwoman of the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA) removed Ben Emmerson, QC, from his post, saying that she had “recently become very concerned about aspects of [his] leadership of the counsel team”.
The unexpected move pushed the most ambitious public inquiry in British history into its biggest crisis. In the two years since it was set up by Theresa May, three chairwomen have resigned. The inquiry, which is projected to last a decade, has spent more than £20 million but not yet heard any evidence.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/abuse-inquiry-in-tatters-after-lawyer-suspended-c3bxwwljd
Counsel to child sexual abuse inquiry suspended amid 'leadership concerns'
The most senior lawyer on the public inquiry into institutional child abuse in England and Wales was suddenly suspended on Wednesday over what the inquiry said were concerns over aspects of his leadership.
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Announcement from SPAIN: On Monday, the 26th online in the a.m. in the online edition of www.elperiodico.es...
by AndersonsInfo inannouncement from spain:.
on monday 26th septriembre, www.elperiodico.es published in its online edition the first publicly reported case of child abuse and harassment in spain watchtower, digital edition monday, tuesday print edition.
please maximum dissemination of the link, it will be online early in the morning of monday 26, in the online edition.
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darkspilver
In the above newspaper article from El Periódico titled "Familias rotas por las audiencias judiciales de los Testigos de Jehová" there is a link to a youtube video from the 2016 Convention in Spanish (three videos combined into one).
Below are the three videos in English:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ8P5xKANvw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwcJUZ5-Vb4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyOTanQ7DSo
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Announcement from SPAIN: On Monday, the 26th online in the a.m. in the online edition of www.elperiodico.es...
by AndersonsInfo inannouncement from spain:.
on monday 26th septriembre, www.elperiodico.es published in its online edition the first publicly reported case of child abuse and harassment in spain watchtower, digital edition monday, tuesday print edition.
please maximum dissemination of the link, it will be online early in the morning of monday 26, in the online edition.
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darkspilver
The opening paragraph of the above article refers to the Watchtower article below
Watchtower 15 April 1988, pages 26 to 31
Discipline That Can Yield Peaceable Fruit
“No discipline seems for the present to be joyous, but grievous; yet afterward to those who have been trained by it it yields peaceable fruit, namely, righteousness.”—HEBREWS 12:11.
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Announcement from SPAIN: On Monday, the 26th online in the a.m. in the online edition of www.elperiodico.es...
by AndersonsInfo inannouncement from spain:.
on monday 26th septriembre, www.elperiodico.es published in its online edition the first publicly reported case of child abuse and harassment in spain watchtower, digital edition monday, tuesday print edition.
please maximum dissemination of the link, it will be online early in the morning of monday 26, in the online edition.
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darkspilver
Familias rotas por las audiencias judiciales de los Testigos de Jehová
Enrique Carmona cuenta como la expulsión de ese credo ha minado la relación de cuatro generaciones
Portavoces de la confesión admiten que se ha de mantener una relación "de mínimos" con los repudiados
Families broken by judicial hearings of Jehovah's Witnesses
Enrique Carmona counts as the expulsion of that creed has undermined the relationship of four generations
Spokespeople admit the confession must be maintained a "minimum" with the Forsaken
Families broken by judicial hearings of Jehovah's Witnesses
Enrique Carmona counts as the expulsion of that creed has undermined the relationship of four generations
Spokespeople admit the confession must be maintained a "minimum" with the Forsaken
On 14 April 1988 the Watch Tower, the dome that runs from the US to eight and a half Jehovah's Witnesses who are spread all over the planet millions, announced a new order to the members of their community. In Spain it came through the publication 'Atalaya' -the usual communication channel. The article was called 'Discipline that can bear fruit peaceful'. Enrique Carmona remembers it well because this decision, taken from across the Atlantic Ocean, changed his life.
The family of Carmona, 60 members belonged to this confession. His father, however, had been expelled in 1964 from drinking too much. "We exceeded and was a good father, but he would return with the Witnesses," Enrique says. Since 1988, they asked the young man, who was then 30 years old, to "stop talking" to his father, I siguiento the new guideline. Enrique resisitirse tried and tried to convince his wife that "family" was "more important" than the norm. He was unsuccessful. In 2002, he was also expelled. "There are many clubs with internal rules they expel members who do not. But do not prohibit your family to talk to you, "evidence to highlight the price that implies expulsion setenciada by a judicial committee that creed.
A DAUGHTER'S WEDDING
One of the hardest episodes of this family restriction he lived the day of the wedding of his daughter. He expected in the consistory of Lugo the arrival of the bride, with the camcorder at point. He appeared on the arm of another man, a stranger, a member of the community, who led her to the altar because he had decided that he should not exercise that role. He could not get at the ceremony held at the Kingdom Hall - the local congregation of his daughter or participate in the wedding feast.
In 2014, Henry's father died. During the months he spent in the hospital, he received no visit one of his granddaughters. And lately, Henry also sees upset his ex-wife now press their descendants to not talk to him. "We are four generations broken because of this sect," he concludes.
"BIBLICAL STANDARD"
Josep Morell, Catalunya delegate Christian Jehovah's Witnesses (the Spanish name of an international confession), recognizes only that relations must maintain a family with a member who has been expelled is "minimal". "If you disrespect me Jehovah not respect me," he reasons. Compares with a father who turns away a child who "steals" or "assaulted one of his brothers."
Also it stresses that this decision was not made in 1988, but comes from century I. quotes the Bible (Corinthians, chapter 5, verse 11: "... I wrote to you not to associate with anyone named a brother, he is an immoral person or covetous, or an idolater, or a slanderer, or a drunkard, or a swindler, with that, you do not even eat "and 13:" But God judges those outside Expel the evil from among you. ").
An internal video production confession posted on YouTube, which screened at regional asembleas this summer shows that the relative must effectively expelled away. In recording the story of a girl who, upon reaching the age of majority, is expelled from home it is told. "My dad told me that he could no longer live with them. Because I did not want to change my lifestyle. I said I was a bad influence for my younger siblings, "says the voice in 'off' of the protagonist.
The video even invited to reject telephone contact.... "They wanted me and wanted me to return to the Lord I tried to communicate with them (...) They thought about approaching me But they knew that if they came into contact me, if only a little to see how she was, that small dose would have sufficed me. I would have been led to believe that there needed to return to the Lord. "
"IT HURTS MUCH"
Marta Herrera was baptized-moment from which a person enters the credo- 13 years and married 22 years. "Marriage was a pantomime. Roommates were simple, "he explains. With 40 years to leave the organization and start a new relationship, he was expelled. Out it was not as easy as it may seem. "I felt lost, everything he had thought became meaningless to me says tearfully, psychologically it is very complicated because you get yours back, it hurts a lot."
Various extestigos consistently emphasized that this community is filled with "good people" who fall into the hands of an organization "that manipulates". And those who go worse "are parents," they conclude.
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Announcement from SPAIN: On Monday, the 26th online in the a.m. in the online edition of www.elperiodico.es...
by AndersonsInfo inannouncement from spain:.
on monday 26th septriembre, www.elperiodico.es published in its online edition the first publicly reported case of child abuse and harassment in spain watchtower, digital edition monday, tuesday print edition.
please maximum dissemination of the link, it will be online early in the morning of monday 26, in the online edition.
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darkspilver
La sombra de los testigos de JehováMuchos expertos califican al grupo de secta por sus formas de manipulación y coerción psicológica
The shadow of Jehovah's Witnesses
Many experts describe the group of sect for their forms of manipulation and psychological coercion
http://www.elperiodico.com/es/noticias/politica/sombra-testigos-jehova-5422787
The shadow of Jehovah's Witnesses
Many experts describe the group of sect for their forms of manipulation and psychological coercion
When you decide to go in a group should not you care much what they think of you. The problem begins if, after your departure, all your friends and family have the consgina to cut off all communication with you. This is what happens when Jehovah's Witnesses put the cross to one of its former members.
What are Jehovah's Witnesses? Despite being entered in the register of religious entities since 1970, many experts are clear: a sect. "It is considered internationally as a group of psychological manipulation by the way they capture, its pyramidal structure and control of information. There are many factors that show that it is a group of psychological manipulation" analyzes Margarita Barranco, clinical psychologist . Diagnosis also sharing the psychologist Miguel Perlado, which pinpoints some recurring pathologies in exadeptos. "The main lack of confidence, affective and emotional stability, always doubting everything. They develop a pleasing style to avoid conflict or friction, accustomed to please everyone 24 hours a day."
FEAR OF DEPARTURE
As with many similar groups, it costs much that the former members denounce coercion received. Usually when they come out they are too weak and after a while, prefer to forget. Besides the added fear that if they report or aerate their criticism, his former friends give them back. In the case of Jehovah's Witnesses practice of banishing is through a parallel judgments. "On leaving the fear of inquisitorial trial that can lead to a cut of this magnitude makes many people out to mincing words, without the letter of resignation," says Pearl.
For the cases tried, Barranco explains that many of these quasi-judicial processes are only instruments for the Apostate not contaminate the rest. "Often take years before the expulsion Pasa. If someone speaks ill of witnesses, although it has not done anything serious, it will try to eject to have no contact with anyone inside and tell what has been wrong. The reasons for these expulsions are often not real. "
Despite being a lucrative publishing business (Watch Tower Society claims to have released more than 40,000 million Bible literature in over 700 languages), the most bemoan the former members is not money lost in buying copies of the magazines 'Atalaya' and 'Awake!' or donations to the cause. Money, little or much, can be recovered. What we regret is not being able to recover the time lost, broken friendships and emotional stability couples and broken.
http://www.elperiodico.com/es/noticias/politica/sombra-testigos-jehova-5422787
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Editorial El Periodico, "The dark practices within Jehovah's Witnesses"
by sp74bb inenric hernàndez (@enric_hernandez), director of el periódico (www.periodico.es) has written an editorial this morning.
very interesting !!.
link to editorial in spanish.
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Prácticas oscuras en los testigos de Jehová
El Periódico Wednesday 28 September 2016, page 6
Print version:
Online version:
http://www.elperiodico.com/es/noticias/opinion/practicas-oscuras-los-testigos-jehova-5423214
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Call for Judicial Hearing by signed letter
by sp74bb ini'm quite surprised about the new approach of some local congregation brothers respect about my fade.... funny, ilegal and very dangerous in view of the different laws regarding personal data and minorities in spain and in the eu.... i already organized a press meeting with main newspapers in spain.
many has shown interest in this situation.
the fact of that a parallel judicial system do exist is amazing them.
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Applying God’s Law: Religious Courts and Mediation in the U.S.
Across the United States, religious courts operate on a routine, everyday basis. The Roman Catholic Church alone has nearly 200 diocesan tribunals that handle a variety of cases, including an estimated 15,000 to 20,000 marriage annulments each year. In addition, many Orthodox Jews use rabbinical courts to obtain religious divorces, resolve business conflicts and settle other disputes with fellow Jews. Similarly, many Muslims appeal to Islamic clerics to resolve marital disputes and other disagreements with fellow Muslims.
For the most part, religious courts and tribunals operate without much public notice or controversy. Occasionally, however, issues involving religious law or religious courts garner media attention. The handling of clergy sexual abuse cases under Catholic canon law, for example, has come under scrutiny.
http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/08/applying-gods-law-religious-courts-and-mediation-in-the-us/
Archbishop's lecture - Civil and Religious Law in England: a religious perspective
The Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr. Rowan Williams delivers the foundation lecture in the Temple Festival series at the Royal Courts of Justice.
In his lecture entitled 'Civil and Religious Law in England: a religious perspective', given at the Royal Courts of Justice, Dr Williams looks at what space can be allowed alongside the secular law of the land for the legal provisions of faith groups, noting that "the issues that arise around what level of public or legal recognition, if any, might be allowed to the legal provisions of a religious group, are not peculiar to Islam: while the law of the Church of England is the law of the land, its daily operation is in the hands of authorities to whom considerable independence is granted." The issue also arises in relation to Orthodox Judaism.
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Call for Judicial Hearing by signed letter
by sp74bb ini'm quite surprised about the new approach of some local congregation brothers respect about my fade.... funny, ilegal and very dangerous in view of the different laws regarding personal data and minorities in spain and in the eu.... i already organized a press meeting with main newspapers in spain.
many has shown interest in this situation.
the fact of that a parallel judicial system do exist is amazing them.
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They are not doubting the "report" from that sister, nor seeking clarification as to whether the accusation is correct! They have already determined your "guilt".
So XXXX says I have had sex out of wedlock. Really? Have you another witness to this accusation against me? If not then is not the procedure set out for Jehovah's Witness elders is that the body should ask two elders to investigate, not to set up a judicial committee.Since this thread was started, new information has come to light...
In an interview with a newspaper earlier this week Miguel Garcia Lopez now admits:
Miguel Garcia was separated from his wife to leave confession and four years later formally divorced. To "liberate" his wife, he wrote a letter in which he explained that he had a new relationship. Thus, she could get the "biblical divorce" and remarrying
Miguel Garcia was happy to effectively confess to adultery in order for his wife to have a scriptural divorce and to allow her to remarry
It seems the elders did not pursue this adultery as a judicial matter with Miguel Garcia at the time due to him having 'faded' from the congregation - ie no longer attending meeting, and for a number of years, had no longer been viewed as a JW either by the congregation or the public.
BUT THEN....
In another post, Hecce reveals:
I am aware of more because of the Spanish Forum and I can tell you that Mr. [Miguel Garcia] Lopez is "a pain" for the elders and that they just want to get rid of him.
So, after fading successfully, it seems that Miguel Garcia NOW wants to get involved some how with the congregation.
Therefore the elders have decided they have no choice but to now pursue the judicial regarding his earlier adultery confession for the benefit of all involved so that Miguel Garcia's relationship with the congregation can be placed on a correct footing.
The reverse would be true, if Miguel Garcia was still faded, the elders would not be pursing this matter, but it seems Miguel Garcia is effectively forcing the elders hand
Bear in mind that - although there is a need for allowance regarding language and translation - Miguel Garcia isn't naive, he knows what he is doing, he is familiar with the procedures....
It just seems like he's 'pushing' the elders and forcing them to act, BUT then complaining when they do - an example of you can't have your cake and eat it ?
