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  Reflections on 1 year WT Free-breaking the chains...

  by MissFit in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi everyone.. i just realized that it has been over a year since i discovered this site and started to recognize i was shackled by invisible chains.

  i am still in the process of chipping away on those chains.. i posted on another thread how these threads here are like little time capsules.

  the moment, the emotions, the attitudes are all there frozen.. .

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  MissFit

  Bttt.
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  The frustration of talking to a person with a closed mind

  by TheStumbler in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  okay, this is going to be a bit of a general rant.

  i had a long conversation with a jw elder recently about shunning and evolution.

  i became qunite frustrated with the conversation and admitted this at the time.

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  I just wanted to say , you never know when something will stick. I like the things you never said.

  Maybe next time you can use one of those points. Point out that he just changed the subject orb redifined a word.

  My daughter did that to me when we were discussing evolution after a convention part.

  I thought I knew what i was talking about.

  I was repeating what was taught.

  She lookedv at me and said mom I don't think you realize how old the earth is. She went on to

  show me some articles. But she would back off when she saw I was getting defensive or not really listening to her.

  Now I am more opened minded and we have very interesting conversations.

  Dont give up.
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  Reflections on 1 year WT Free-breaking the chains...

  by MissFit in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi everyone.. i just realized that it has been over a year since i discovered this site and started to recognize i was shackled by invisible chains.

  i am still in the process of chipping away on those chains.. i posted on another thread how these threads here are like little time capsules.

  the moment, the emotions, the attitudes are all there frozen.. .

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  MissFit

  Hi everyone.

  I am sitting here not sleeping.

  I am still reflecting on this last year.

  Around this time last year I was at a very dark place.

  I scared myself. I was entertaining suicidal thoughts. Sure occasionally, I would think it wouldn't matter to anyone if I just disappeared one day. But then I started to seriously consider my death.

  I remember feeling so bereft and hopeless. I started reaching out to my family as a way to say goodbye.

  I didnt see the point of living any more. My family seemed fine without me.

  I just started posting a couple of months on this site.

  I was feeling so isolated but I felt a connection to many on this site.

  I read of others experiencing some of the same feelings as I was.

  In desperation, in the middle of my despair and fear, I reached out to this community.

  I recieved such an out pouring of support and encouragement and useful advice.

  I sit here tonite thinking about that time and feeling such a burst of gratitude to everyone here.

  I really think you saved my life.

  Thank you.
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  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  MissFit

  Great question Cofty. I was wondering the same thing.

  PSAC: I am disappointed that you would automatically assume that any answer you gave would not satisfy me. I think that is a cop out.

  What did I personally say to give you that impression? I just pointed out that your answers did not address the question asked.

  Please understand that I am not trying to attack your beliefs in any way. I may not personally accept your explanation, but that doesn't mean I dont respect your right to it.

  I am examining every thing I thought I knew. I realized that I was accepting "facts" and conclusions without question.

  I am not asking you to get me to accept your beliefs, I will make up my own mind.

  I enjoy and appreciate your responses.

  Your earlier posts about taking the emotion out of q uestion Cofty asked seemed like a valid point.

  The fact that I can actually discuss these issues freely is so liberating. I am keeping an open mind regarding god, I find I am starting to view him differently than I was raised to.

  I feel I have plenty of time to reach my conclusion.

  This thread has helped me in my journey.

  Thank you for your contribution.
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  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  Psac: how does your reply answer Humble's question Re: the golden rule. If your god felt the suffering as you say: why would he sit back and allow thousands to die and suffer?

  Also re: Jesus/God: Jesus interfered with natural events: he calmed the wind; he helped his apostles fish; he brought Lazarus from the dead. Hev saw first hand how much suffering losing a loved causes us.

  So what excuse / reason is there for him to go back to heaven and sit on his hands?

  We might as well have no God.
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  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  Psac, how does your reply answer Humble's question re: god following the principal of the golden rule?

  I am curious also.

  If there is a god I dont think he cares. I think we are so beneath him that a few thousand , millions of lives doesnt even register.

  We are God's ant farm.
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  A year ago today was my last meeting.

  by quellycatface in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it was a sunday.

  the shittiest public talk delivered by the most inarticulate and boring man.

  as for the watchtower, there was something in it that repulsed me so badly, it made me question everything.

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  Happy apostaversary.😆

  Not feeling obligated to go to the meeting ...what freedom.

  Actually that article started making me rethink everything I thought I knew.

  Im not too into doctrine, I bought all of the "light gets brighter" explanations in the past. But demoting all of the anointed except for the GB?

  One of the biggest differences we could point to was that we dont follow men.

  I just could not get my head around it.
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  Reflections on 1 year WT Free-breaking the chains...

  by MissFit in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi everyone.. i just realized that it has been over a year since i discovered this site and started to recognize i was shackled by invisible chains.

  i am still in the process of chipping away on those chains.. i posted on another thread how these threads here are like little time capsules.

  the moment, the emotions, the attitudes are all there frozen.. .

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  MissFit

  Quandry: yes. It is wonderful to think for myself.

  This site opened up a new world for me.

  I can't describe the feeling I had when I realized for the first time the Bible Stories were not literal.

  Noah's ark... I had accepted all the WT explanations without question.

  When I started reading threads here about the flood, and started to do the math, I realized the

  WT explanations did not make since.

  I talked it over with my non JW daughter.

  She verified what I was learning and gave me more facts to think about.

  I was astounded. I looked at her and asked her how long had she figured this out. She said since high school. She told me she didnt tell me because she knew it would upset me.

  I could not believe how gullible I was.
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  How do we set up a "Used New Bike Fund" for Terry?

  by BucketShopBill in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  is there any way we can try to start a crowd-fund to help terry get some wheels quicker than he currently can?

  with craigslist and a couple of bucks from a few members we can help terry get moving.

  does anyone have any ideas how we can do a "theists for terry" bike fund raiser and challenge the atheists to a bucket-head challenge?

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  MissFit

  Objective Truth, you have a pm.
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  How do we set up a "Used New Bike Fund" for Terry?

  by BucketShopBill in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  is there any way we can try to start a crowd-fund to help terry get some wheels quicker than he currently can?

  with craigslist and a couple of bucks from a few members we can help terry get moving.

  does anyone have any ideas how we can do a "theists for terry" bike fund raiser and challenge the atheists to a bucket-head challenge?

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  MissFit

  Objective Truth, you have a pm.