So much "growth"! JW Land double sided coin

by thedepressedsoul in

i'm finding it more and more funny how every wt article for the public or congregation, including jw broadcast talks about all this "growth" and how fast jehovha's organization is speeding up!

yet everything behind closed doors, insider information, elder letters and sales paint a very different picture.

i have news for you gb members!

yogosans14

They are defentily not growing in the United States. Funny story my grandmother was telling me how much growth our local KH has had (she listens on the phone majority of the time since she has bad arthritis) yet when I went there I saw LESS people then I did when I went a year ago. I even couldn't find people that are devout JWs (they were "sick" but I'm seeing this excuse to much lol)

even when my grandma walked in she couldn't believe how empty the seats were!it amazes me how JWs will believe this "growth" lie. I guess the Governing body doesn't want them thinking all that door to door work is a waste of time.

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Something that my devout JDUB cousin said...

by yogosans14 in

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we used to be so close before she got heavily involved in the jw religion.

she actually got me into it (i actually believed all the nonsense) and i went to meetings with her and everything, we were like brother and sister.

she lives in texas now in a remote area where their is no cell phone signal or anything with her dad and mom (i think they said they moved their to get closer to jehovah which is weird).

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We used to be so close before she got heavily involved in the JW religion. She actually got me into it (I actually believed all the nonsense) and I went to meetings with her and everything, we were like brother and sister. She lives in Texas now in a remote area where their is no cell phone signal or anything with her dad and mom (I think they said they moved their to get closer to Jehovah which is weird). Anyways i went to Texas with my family to visit her And my aunt and uncle and she ignored me most of the time, even if I tried to get a conversation going I felt this tension between us and its like she had no interest in what I was talking about. She did give me 3 sermons on how I need to get serious with Jehovah and his

organzation (I never got baptized I went to meetings on and off before I found out TTAT) and I just stayed quite and nodded my head like I was agreeing. Anyways recently I was in the car with my devout grandmother and she was telling me about how she's a great grandmother and the guy who just had a kid is her Sons son who is DF'd. She told my cousin about the baby etc and the dad and my cousin asked "is he in the truth because if he's not I don't want to hear about it" which coming from her really shocked me. I thought JWs care about everyone but I guess not unless your in their social club. She seems to be distancing herself from everyone including family who isn't "in the truth" which is sad because we used to bond so well :(

ugh i hate this religion and what it turns people into.

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Questions about Non JWs attending a JW baptism

by TTWSYF in

i attended my brother and sister in laws' baptism at a kingdom hall a number of years ago.

i was [am] not a jw so when i arrived i was bombarded with attention from the flock to which i politely stated that i was there to see my brother and his wife.

it seemed like the distraction was intentional.

yogosans14

I cannot believe they baptize In the name of an organization...disgusting and sad. They are trusting in men for salvation.

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This Year's Memorial

by TD in

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perhaps i'm just getting older and crankier, but it really seems to me that the jw faith is deteriorating at an accelerated rate.. case in point: this year's memorial talk.

it was one of the most incoherent messes i've ever heard.

(and i've heard a lot of memorial talks over the last 50 years....).

yogosans14

The memorial I attended quoted John 3:5 about being born again only applying to 144,000 while giving NO credible reasoning for this interpertation...I was so done with it at that point.

also at the end he said those attending should start going to meetings and study the bible with JWs to draw close to God...ugh they have no shame in advertising there religion.

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Jesus Saves From What? March 2015 Watchtower Article

by Perry in

i just skimmed the titled article on jw.org and once again the watchtower is misdirecting:.

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20150301/jesus-death-and-resurrection/ .

they try and make the old case that jesus saves us from being destroyed at armageddon.

yogosans14

Coded logic you are correct. The early church has always taught that those who reject Christ until death will be forever serperated from Gods prescence.

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Jesus Saves From What? March 2015 Watchtower Article

by Perry in

i just skimmed the titled article on jw.org and once again the watchtower is misdirecting:.

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20150301/jesus-death-and-resurrection/ .

they try and make the old case that jesus saves us from being destroyed at armageddon.

yogosans14

We're living in 2015 not in the dark ages. the inquisitions have nothing to do with Christians in 2015.

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Jesus Saves From What? March 2015 Watchtower Article

by Perry in

i just skimmed the titled article on jw.org and once again the watchtower is misdirecting:.

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20150301/jesus-death-and-resurrection/ .

they try and make the old case that jesus saves us from being destroyed at armageddon.

yogosans14

No Christians wants anyone to go to Hell. That's the point of sharing the Gospel.

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Jesus Saves From What? March 2015 Watchtower Article

by Perry in

i just skimmed the titled article on jw.org and once again the watchtower is misdirecting:.

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20150301/jesus-death-and-resurrection/ .

they try and make the old case that jesus saves us from being destroyed at armageddon.

yogosans14

1 Thessalonians 5:23English Standard Version (ESV)

23 Now may the God of peace himself sanctify you completely, and may your whole spirit and soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Also paul said to be absent from the body present with the Lord. Our spirits or souls is what departs when we die. James said the body without the spirit is dead. In revelation John saw the souls of those who had been martyred for there faith in Christ.

Hebrews 12:23New International Version (NIV)

23 to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven. You have come to God, the Judge of all, to the spirits of the righteous made perfect,

Our spirits are made perfect when we are born again, so we can thus be in the prescence of God at death. On reserruction day our souls will reunite with our glorified bodies.

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Jesus Saves From What? March 2015 Watchtower Article

by Perry in

i just skimmed the titled article on jw.org and once again the watchtower is misdirecting:.

http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20150301/jesus-death-and-resurrection/ .

they try and make the old case that jesus saves us from being destroyed at armageddon.

yogosans14

Perry..God bless you. The Lord has opened you eyes from the bondag did the WT society. Yes "perish" would be better since the Greek text literally says it. I showed this to a JW and his answer was "well we don't speak Greek, we're talking about English" I face palmed so hard. Yes the spirit is immortal. Paul said we are Soul, Spirit, and Body a tri part being.

not sure why so many EX jws are attacking you. It's your belief, but I think a lot of them are in this "if watchtower isn't the truth then nothing is" mentality. I could be wrong it that's it seems to me.

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YouTube video: Ex Jehovah's Witness becomes Catholic!

by yogosans14 in

http://youtu.be/lvjyq6drtl0.

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http://youtu.be/LvjYq6drTl0

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1 Thessalonians 5:23English Standard Version (ESV)

Hebrews 12:23New International Version (NIV)