Posts by Onager

i live in the u.k, was born in, fell away as an unbaptised publisher, got baptised in my 30s for reasons i'm retrospectively unsure of, and lost my faith about five years ago around the time of the original a.r.c.

now, being unable to leave is making me physically, emotionally and mentally ill.. i have been visiting this forum for a couple of years and wanted to post my first message to see if anyone has attended, heard or watched the zone visit broadcast thing happening this month?

Onager

Hi Isambard Crater,

I'm also in the UK so I wouldn't have seen the broadcast yet.

I also wouldn't be seen dead inside a kingdom hall so that's a double whammy!

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Pope Francis Orders Vatican Archives to Reveal God’s Name Ending Centuries of Secrecy

by pleaseresearch in

it's from 3 weeks ago.

my mum told me about it.

but is this real or fake?

Onager

From Snopes:

http://www.snopes.com/trump-turkey-pardons-reversed/

Like all content published by Real News Right Now, the story was satirical in nature, although the site does not include a disclaimer identifying its material fake news . However, the site’s “About” page includes several obvious indicators, such as its humorous claims that author R. Hobbus J.D. has received non-existent awards such as the “Oscar Mayer Award for Journalistic Excellence” and the “Stephen Glass Distinction in Journalistic Integrity.”

Also the last line is a dead giveaway:

"According to the insider, the body which serves to advise the Pope has a “friendly betting pool” whose odds-on favorite is “Kevin.”"

Sadly it's fake news.

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What food are you grateful for?

by punkofnice in

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i'll start: stilton cheese.. (it was a toss up between that and sweet pickled beetroot).. thank you folks..

Onager

My grandma's green bean chutney in a cheese sandwich made with a white bloomer and nice mature cheddar cheese.

OMG I can taste it in my mind now! My mum makes it now that grandma is dead, but it's not the same...

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My new answer to an annoying question we have all been asked.

by doubtfull1799 in

well new to me anyway, i'm sure someone smarter than me has thought of this before.

the next time i get asked the perennial (and tired old) question: “but you do believe that the gb are god’s channel of communication, the organisation he is using, don’t you?” or some variation thereof, i am going to reply with two verses and reason as follows:.

the matter to be established: have the gb of jehovah’s witnesses received divine appointment to act as god’s representatives and channel of communication on earth?.

Onager

"Good does not testify directly about them through the scriptures - an impossibility since they did not even exist when the scriptures were written!"

Of course it's not impossible for God! All he needed to do was get the bloke that wrote Revelation to add a bit that said:

"One thousand and nine hundred years from now, in the land over the Western sea, a group of men will arise, blessed by God speaking truth. Then they will change that truth many times and also, they will be strangely obsessed with your sexual activity. Obey these men as you would the word of God or they will break up your family bonds and cause great lamentation in the land."

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Crop circles

by Chook in

what causes them ?.

Onager

kairos 15 hours ago

Nazca lines?
also fake?

Oregon desert Sri Yantra?

Open your minds!

We just left a cult!!

Crop circles aren't fake and neither are the Nazca lines. They are real things... made by real people.

I left the cult due to developing critical thinking skills. When you apply those skills to claims such as crop circles and the Nazca lines are made by aliens, those claims collapse pretty fast.

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Any atheists here? Have you come to terms with your new reality?

by kpop in

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alone, without my safety net of "god" being there to remember me when i die.

after much consideration, examining science, history and using logic, i have come to the conclusion that there is no "god" at least certainly no loving, personal "god.

" shortly before my final conclusion was reached, i read an excerpt from an expression attributed to marcus aurelius, .

Onager

truth_b_known , I used Conan and his god Crom in an argument on the evolution of deities with a JW relative.

The key quote is when Subatai says to Conan: "My god is the eternal sky... your god lives beneath my god."

That's all it is: The gods are just different societies playing god top trumps over time. That's why pantheons haven't survived, one god that can do everything that the individuals of a pantheon can do is stronger, more impressive.

This also explains why gods become less directly involved over time and more remote and enigmatic.

Ok, that's my theory. Now maybe someone who knows their stuff can tear it apart? :)

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Any atheists here? Have you come to terms with your new reality?

by kpop in

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alone, without my safety net of "god" being there to remember me when i die.

after much consideration, examining science, history and using logic, i have come to the conclusion that there is no "god" at least certainly no loving, personal "god.

" shortly before my final conclusion was reached, i read an excerpt from an expression attributed to marcus aurelius, .

Onager

Nice quote, kind of a reverse Pascals Wager. :)

I'm technically agnostic, but I tell anyone who asks that I'm atheist. I'm convinced that no god that's presented to me by another person can or does exist. That goes for any god proposed in any book written by people as well.

As to whether some kind of non-interventionist creator made the universe and maybe even has a plan for the future, I don't know and can't know. Some people call that "Ignostic" but I think there's enough confusion going on as it is without bringing in made up terms!

I feel that this has brought me closer to "truth" and I feel more comfortable now that I'm living according to my principles. If I die and against expectation, find myself before the throne of god, I will feel confident in saying "Dude, you have some seriously bad PR guys down there on Earth."

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Movies I'm Watching

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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i have, for about 6 months now, been trying to watch every single movie that was "cool" or interesting since 1960.it started out with a desire to watch as an adult all disney movies.

then it morphed into all bond movies (except for the non-canonicals).now it's turned into pretty much any and all movies.

here is my list, scratched out are ones i have seen, green are recent next-in line.turns out there was a lot i had never seen before, about 70% because of the cult restrictions!

Onager

Hi,

I'd like to second slimboyfat's recommendation of Pan's Labyrinth. In fact I would recommend all of Guillermo Del Torro's films, particularly The Devil's Backbone.

Also, if you are a fan of Judge Dredd, skip the 1995 Stallone film, skip it so hard you find it difficult to stop skipping. There's a 2012 film called Dredd which is much more true to the source starring Karl Urban who doesn't take his helmet off. :)