Posts by Onager

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The poor and deprived life of JW children.

by Esse quam videri in

i find it hard to believe that adults on this forum make such a big deal about not celebrating birthdays, x-mas, easter, halloween, etc, etc, etc.

i grew up as a jw kid and it actually made me feel good, being different from the other kids in school.

we went to meetings.

Onager

Esse quam videri , as you have returned to this thread and aren't just another of those drive-by posters can I ask you if you have read this site: http://www.jwfacts.com/ ?

We can talk about our personal experiences and opinions 'til the cows come home but what really matters is facts.

If the JW's do have "The Truth" and are God's representatives on earth then it doesn't matter what anybody's opinion about birthdays or blood or any other subject are. If, on the other hand the JW religion does not have the truth, are deliberately misleading and even tell outright lies then none of their commands have any validity.

That's the crux of the matter and until you have the facts any other discussion is just gum flapping.

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The poor and deprived life of JW children.

by Esse quam videri in

i find it hard to believe that adults on this forum make such a big deal about not celebrating birthdays, x-mas, easter, halloween, etc, etc, etc.

i grew up as a jw kid and it actually made me feel good, being different from the other kids in school.

we went to meetings.

Onager

I wonder if they ever came back to read any of these comments...

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Sorry, But Your Sad Story Doesn't Make Me Feel Better. Is it supposed to?

by Tempest in a Teacup in

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i have very recently come out of a bout of severe depression which lasted for years.

i have ginormous underlying issues which i hardly talk about, especially to my family.. today my sister came in, wanting to force me to do something she wanted.

her strategy was to make me feel bad for feeling bad, just to show me that my problem (which she has no idea of but thinks she does) wasn't the biggest in the world.

Onager

Teacup, you could try saying "I don't need a lecture, I need a hug." That's what my wife tells me when I try to be helpful and "fix" her. :)

Hugs

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why did man go from living 900 years to 90?

by sowhatnow in

i cant recall the scripture, where it says than only a few men will he live to be 80 years or so, can anyone recall that?.

so then im wondering, if it is a fact that men lived long years 900 in some cases, for what reason would god limit our lifespan if our time is so short compared to his?.

how on earth does man go from living 8 and 9 hundred years down to 80 to 100 ?.

Onager

I read somewhere that all the ancient cultures were making excessive longevity claims back in the day. The Sumerians had their kings reigning for tens of thousands of years for example. I can't find the original article now, it was on the James Randi Educational Forum I think, but here's a Wiki link on the subject:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longevity_myths

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Do you think you should have the right to decline business on Personal or Religious grounds?

by PokerPlayerPhil in

should individual businesses have the right to pick and chose who they serve?

if a muslim decides he won't bake the cake of a radical zionist that says "reclaim the temple in jerusalem" should the government be allowed to punish the muslim baker?

maybe you can help me understand the issues more clearly because were becoming hyper-sensitive and soon your going to need a handbook what's the proper thing to say.

Onager

"Refusing to bake a cake with plastic figurines of the same sex on the top is illegal; refusing to bake the same cake with the same sex figurines performing a sex act is legal."

Shouldn't that be the other way around?

Ohhh Myyyy! :)

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Just sent a letter...at 1am, after drinking a lot of Scotch

by tresdecu in

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sent to the production company that made 'going clear' (documentary about scientology).

edit: i sent an email...not an actual letter.

dear mr gibney,.

Onager

Surely that should read:

Dear Mishter Gibney,

The documentary about Schientology wash wonderful. My wife and I were fashcinated with the informashun you presented...

:)

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Hi Everyone. Answer to prayer countdown...

by Stumpy in

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i've been lurking for about 3 months now and thought i'd better finally sign up.

you have all been an immense help to me as i have come to realize that this isn't the truth so i want to say a great big thank you!

what a crazy, emotional ride it is to finally face the truth about the doubts that i have carried for many years.

Onager

As a group JWs ARE the only ones trying to do what God requires despite all their faults and misunderstand of many many texts.

I disagree with this also. I think that *individual* JW's may be doing this, but as a group, nowadays, they are a false religion serving men's interests not gods.

People here should grow up and stop being so self centered and looking at the bad in every thing.

I think that's a very sweeping and judgemental thing to say. This very thread is a great example of mature, caring, positive people coming together to help a fellow human being through a difficult time.

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Atheism

by Jonathan Drake in

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recent events and book reads (one suggested by cofty i believe- thank you) have lead me to the only logical and acceptable conclusion:.

there is no god.. simple logical reasoning: matter can neither me created or destroyed.

so the amount of mass in the universe is constant.

Onager

"From a logical perspective lack of evidence means no more than lack of evidence. To say that lack of evidence means anything more is fallacy."

And *that* means that Jehovah, Cthulhu and Harry Potter have equal existential validity.

That means quite a lot ...

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I've decided to officially disassociate myself

by Garrett in

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hey guys, .

i just wanted to thank you all for all of your input, support and help over the past few months.

i've decided to officially disassociate myself from the organization and move on with my life.

Onager

Good luck Garrett!

If you have dear friends with open minds who are still JW's it could be worth reaching out to them after a while has passed, because they can't reach out to you of course. I have a couple of friends who are still JW's who I meet for a drink now and then (discreetly). We don't talk religion but they get to see that I haven't turned into an amoral monster and that I'm there for them if need be.

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Old Hat

by Phaedra in

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15 years ago i joined this forum under a generic alias.. if it weren't for the fact that i have close family weaved into this tapestry of a religion i think i could have moved on long ago.. when you're connected, you're connected.. to those in the same boat, you're not alone.. we get it, and you.. hugs,.

phae.

Onager

Yep, I get it too. Most of my family are still "in", including the intelligent ones! I also wish I could discover Phizzy's silver bullet.

One of the things that really bothers me is that, the way things are set up now, even the youngest member of my family could live their whole life as a JW. The fairytale is engineered to never end.