she came in the jw world in 1966 with her mother- she was 6 years old.
she graduated from high school in 1976. during the 90 minutes i spent with her yesterday, she mentioned that the org never said the end was coming in 1975-" it was just a few who said that and they all left after 1976- which was good- because jah needed to cleanse the kh of all who were serving with just a date in mind.. i asked her, "don't you remember the assembly talk from 1969 or 1970, where the speaker said, "stay alive until 75"- no she didn't remember.. i explained that our kh had a co tell us from the platform," brothers there is only 18 months left until armageddon- wow, she exclaimed.. i continued my story, "the po's 16 year old son quit school in 1974- to become a regular pioneer- he was held up as a fine example in the cong- and used as an example at a circuit assembly that year of someone who putting jehovah's work first.
didn't you have some who quit school to pioneer back then?".
Those "few" were DO's, CO's, and elders. Here are a couple of the answers I've gotten over the years regarding 1975:
Father: Sister D was telling everybody Armageddon was coming in 1975. It was her fault.
Brother: The Society hinted once that it could be 1975, and then the news media got ahold of it and blew it out of proportion.
Son-in-law: Our family came into the truth in 1975 and never heard anything about it (they were getting cold feet by then).
Daughter: It never happened.
i posted this question on another thread, but got no answer.
a few weeks ago somebody said it was thursday, april 7, and a more recent post said it was sunday, april 17. i don't ever remember any memorials being that late..
Sorry - I got 2011 and 2012 mixed up.
i posted this question on another thread, but got no answer.
a few weeks ago somebody said it was thursday, april 7, and a more recent post said it was sunday, april 17. i don't ever remember any memorials being that late..
I posted this question on another thread, but got no answer. A few weeks ago somebody said it was Thursday, April 7, and a more recent post said it was Sunday, April 17. I don't ever remember any memorials being that late.
there's already a couple of threads discussing this particular issue of kool-aid version of the wt, but i just had to start another after reading about the creative days mentioned in this issue.. we debate from time to time if the wts has ever officially retracted their doctrine that the earth and all things created are less than 50,000 years old.
there's been some quotes that show them waffling on the age of the planet itself but still sort of holding to the notion of all creation happening within a defineable 7 day period.
how long is a creative day?
Smiddy - that's how I understood it too. I thought it made sense.
now is a good time to start making preparations for the memorial night demonstration at your kingdom hall sunday, april 17, 2011, after sundown.
the evils of the watchtower org.have to be exposed and this is an ideal time to do it.
many around the world have been adversely affected by their association with jehovah's witnesses.
I thought the memorial was Thursday, April 7, 2011. Never heard of it being as late as April 17.
i am sure that this question as been asked before.
when i think of my life now,a lovely kind beautiful wife, two happy healthy kids, good job, nice home, real friends.
yes since i left the jws almost twenty years ago i can honestly say i have lived my life.. when i eventually left the death by bordem cult ... i had nothing, a loveless marraige i only stayed in because of the jws, no friends, no home to call my own, in debt, i had a wife who was so depressed she shooped to make herself happy.
One thing's for sure. My marriage to Clyde would be over. It was almost over as it was because I was far behind him in fading, and he was about ready to lose it. Strange how things work out. I would have lost Clyde, but I wouldn't have lost my father, brother, daughter, son-in-law, niece, and several cousins. But I have a stronger relationship with my two sons and their wives.
Bonnie
while posting on another thread, i thought of this.
for me, it was the "we never said you couldn't go to college" flipflop in the mid 1990s.
when ofc we all know that to be an utter lie.. now that i think about it, their literature is written with future flipflopping mind.
Alternative service - I read the WT article, early 1998, about "Feelings of having suffered needlessly" and it justified the brothers who had suffered imprisonment for not going into the military rather than accepting alternative service. I remember mentioning to Clyde that I'd have been ticked if I had to go to prison and later find out that it wasn't really necessary. That year I started reading the WT more critically and gave more attention to what was said in the talks at the KH.
When I finally began investigating on the Internet, my belief system started toppling like dominoes.
monday, november 22. youhadnohope.-eph.2:12.. jehovah's witnesses accept medical help and various forms of treatment.
our journal awake!
often contains articles on health matters.
Don't spend your money on health care. Die sooner and leave your money to the WT because we need your money.
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of the congregation on earth.
holy spirit...not through the gb?.
Para 8: "In this time of the end, Christ has committed “all his belongings”— all the earthly interests of the Kingdom— to his “faithful and discreet slave” and its representative Governing Body, a group of anointed Christian men. (Matt. 24:45-47) The anointed and their other sheep companions recognize that by following the lead of the modern-day Governing Body,they are in fact following their Leader, Christ."
Couldn't the pope and "heads" of the other religions just claim that they are also "in fact following their Leader, Christ." - see para.1.
is it not true that the leaders knew that it was a blatant lie when the 1975 teaching was propagated in the 60's?.
I'm not so the WTS leaders knew that their 1975 hype was a lie.
In Crisis of Conscience, Ray Franz says that when the end didn't come in 1975 as anticipated, the GB scrambled to try to figure out what had gone wrong.
This indicates that they really believed it themselves, probably because they believed that Freddy was a genuine Bible scholar.
So do you think that Freddy knew it was a lie?
