Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-21-10 WT Study (LEADER CHRIST)

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    Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-21-10 WT Study (September 15, 2010, pages 21-25 (LEADER CHRIST)

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    “YOUR LEADER IS ONE,

    THE CHRIST”

    “Do not . . . be called ‘leaders,’ for your Leader is one,

    the Christ.”—MATT. 23:9, 10.

    OPENING COMMENTS

    The Christ = Jesus + 144,000 = 144,001 Jesus head, 144,000 body

    START OF ARTICLE

    1. Whom do Jehovah’s Witnesses recognize as

    Leader, and why?

    CHRISTENDOM’S churches have human

    leaders, such as the pope of Rome, the

    patriarchs and metropolitans of the Eastern

    Orthodox churches, and the heads of other

    religions. Jehovah’s Witnesses recognize no

    human as their leader. They are not disciples

    or followers of any man. This is in line with

    Jehovah’s prophetic utterance concerning

    his Son: “Look! As a witness to the national

    groups I have given him, as a leader

    and commander to the national groups.”

    (Isa. 55:4) The international congregation of

    anointed Christians and their “other sheep”

    companions want no leader other than the

    one Jehovah has given them. (John 10:16)

    They subscribe to Jesus’ statement: “Your

    Leader is one, the Christ.”—Matt. 23:10.

    COMMENTS

    Semantics….based on this scripture the WTS does have leaders:

    (Hebrews 13:7) . . .Remember those who are taking the lead among YOU, who have spoken the word of God to YOU, and as YOU contemplate how [their] conduct turns out imitate [their] faith.

    (Hebrews 13:17) . . .Be obedient to those who are taking the lead among YOU and be submissive, for they are keeping watch over YOUR souls as those who will render an account; that they may do this with joy and not with sighing, for this would be damaging to YOU.

    (Hebrews 13:24) . . .Give my greetings to all those who are taking the lead among YOU and to all the holy ones. Those in Italy send YOU their greetings.

    *** w09 2/15 p. 28 par. 17 They “Keep Following the Lamb”***The members of the Governing Body are experienced, spirit-anointed elders. They in particular can be described as “those who are taking the lead” among us. (Heb. 13:7)

    *** w09 11/15 p. 14 par. 5 We need to guard against developing a spirit of independence. By word or action, may we never challenge the channel of communication that Jehovah is using today. (Num. 16:1-3) On the contrary, we should cherish our privilege to cooperate with the slave class. And should we not strive to be obedient and submissive to those taking the lead in our local congregation?—ReadHebrews 13:7, 17.

    *** w08 1/15 p. 26 par. 6 In a symbolic way, Christians with an earthly hope today walk behind the anointed slave class and its Governing Body, following their leadership.

    *** w08 5/15 p. 29 The Head, Jesus Christ, supplies the body members with what is needed for good cooperation, coordination, and spiritual nourishment. (Eph. 4:15, 16; Col. 2:19) In such respects, the Governing Body is organized to take the lead as Jehovah directs them by holy spirit.

    Spiritual Prince of Israel

    2, 3. What active role did God’s Son

    play in Israel?

    2 Centuries before the founding of the

    Christian congregation, Jehovah had an angelic

    leader over his people Israel. After

    bringing the Israelites out of Egypt, Jehovah

    told them: “Here I am sending an angel

    ahead of you to keep you on the road and to

    bring you into the place that I have prepared.

    Watch yourself because of him and

    obey his voice. Do not behave rebelliously

    against him, for he will not pardon your

    transgression; because my name is within

    him.” (Ex. 23:20, 21) It is reasonable

    to believe that this angel, who had

    ‘Jehovah’s name within him,’ was

    God’s firstborn Son.

    COMMENTS

    Does the Bible say that Jesus was the angel leading the Israelites out of Egypt?

    “It is reasonable to believe” another buzzword meaning “we do not know but we will interpret the bible.

    *** it-1p. 106 Angel***The foremost angel, both in power and authority, is Michael, the archangel. (Da 10:13, 21; 12:1; Jude 9; Re 12:7; see ARCHANGEL; MICHAEL No. 1.) Because of his preeminence and his being called “the great prince who is standing in behalf of the sons of [God’s] people,” he is presumed to be the angel that led Israel through the wilderness. (Ex 23:20-23)

    *** it-2 p. 53 Jesus Christ***The angel who guided Israel through the wilderness and whose voice the Israelites were strictly to obey because ‘Jehovah’s name was within him,’ may therefore have been God’s Son, the Word.—Ex 23:20-23; compare Jos 5:13-15.

    *** w043/15 p. 27***23:20-23—Whowastheangelmentionedhere,andhowwasitthatJehovah’snamewas“withinhim”?Likely, this angel was Jesus in his prehuman form.

    3 Prior to his birth as a human,

    God’s Son apparently had

    the name Michael. In the book

    of Daniel, Michael is called “the

    prince of [Daniel’s] people,” Israel.

    (Dan. 10:21) The disciple

    Jude indicates that Michael was

    involved in the affairs of Israel

    long before Daniel’s day. After

    Moses’ death, Satan apparently

    intended to use the corpse to

    further his own interests in someway, possibly

    by inciting Israel to commit idolatry. Michael

    stepped in to prevent this. Jude relates:

    “When Michael the archangel had a difference

    with the Devil and was disputing

    about Moses’ body, he did not dare to

    bring a judgment against him in abusive

    terms, but said: ‘May Jehovah rebuke you.’ ”

    (Jude 9) A little later, before the siege of Jericho,

    it was doubtless Michael, the “prince

    of the army of Jehovah,” who appeared

    to Joshua to reassure him of divine backing.

    (Read Joshua 5:13-15.) When a demon

    prince tried to prevent an angel from delivering

    an important message to the prophet

    Daniel, the archangel Michael came to that

    angel’s assistance.—Dan.10:5-7,12-14.

    COMMENTS

    APPARENTLY…had the name of Michael

    Satan APPARENTLY intended to use

    POSSIBLY by inciting Israel

    DOUBTLESS Michael

    Four qualifiers in one paragraph!

    “I am sending

    an angel ahead

    of you”

    The Foretold Leader Comes

    4. What prophecy was given concerning the coming

    of the Messiah?

    4 Previous to this incident, Jehovah had

    sent his angel Gabriel to the prophet Daniel

    to convey to him a prophecy concerning the

    coming of “Messiah the Leader.” (Dan. 9:21-

    25)_ Exactly on time, in the fall of 29 C.E., Jesus

    was baptized by John. Holy spirit was

    poured out upon Jesus, making him the

    Anointed One—Christ, the Messiah. (Matt.

    3:13-17; John 1:29-34; Gal. 4:4) As such, he

    was to become an incomparable Leader.

    COMMENTS

    Why doesn’t God send angels to the Governing Body so they don’t have to constantly adjust their assertions?

    How do other Bible scholars comments on the timeliness of Daniel’s prophecy?

    Was it “exactly on time”?

    5. How did Christ act as Leader during his earthly

    ministry?

    5 From the beginning of his ministry on

    earth, Jesus proved himself to be “Messiah

    the Leader.” Within a few days, he began

    gathering disciples, and he performed his

    first miracle. (John 1:35–2:11) His disciples

    followed him as he traveled the length and

    breadth of the land, preaching the good

    news of the Kingdom. (Luke 8:1) He trained

    them in the preaching work and took the

    lead in preaching and teaching, setting a fine

    example. (Luke 9:1-6) Christian elders today

    do well to imitate him in this respect.

    _ For a discussion of this prophecy, see chapter 11 of

    Pay Attention to Daniel’s Prophecy!

    COMMENTS

    In what way did Jesus prove “himself to be “Messiah the Leader” per the WTS?

    Do jw elders really preach like Jesus did or do they delegate that to the ministerial servants and take off on personal errands? When was the last time an elder worked door to door with a publisher, their wife, their child? Is it because Jesus never did?

    6. In what way did Christ prove to be a Shepherd

    and Leader?

    6 Jesus pointed to another aspect of his

    leadership by comparing himself to a loving

    shepherd. Oriental shepherds literally lead

    their flocks. In The Land and the Book,

    W. M. Thomson wrote: “The shepherd goes

    before, not merely to point out the way, but

    to see that it is practicable and safe. . . .With

    [his] staff he rules and guides the flock to

    their green pastures, and defends them from

    their enemies.” Showing that he is a true

    Shepherd and Leader, Jesus declared: “I am

    the fine shepherd; the fine shepherd surrenders

    his soul in behalf of the sheep. My

    sheep listen to my voice, and I know them,

    and they follow me.” (John 10:11, 27) True

    to his word, Jesus died a sacrificial death in

    behalf of his sheep, but Jehovah “raised him

    up to be leader and Saviour.”—Acts 5:31, New

    Jerusalem Bible; Heb.13:20.

    COMMENTS

    Elders just point the way…giving territory and making car groups as they take off in their own direction to do their “work” separate from the sheep. Do elders remember that they are sheep too?

    Elders don’t even take time out of their lives to help the sheep, let alone die for them. I always used to imagine them sending out the rank and file to face the enemy with guns outside the doors.

    Overseer of the Christian Congregation

    7. By means of what does Jesus oversee the Christian

    congregation?

    7 Shortly before ascending to heaven, the

    resurrected Jesus told his disciples: “All authority

    has been given me in heaven and on

    the earth.” (Matt. 28:18) Jehovah had Jesus

    pass on holy spirit to strengthen his disciples

    in Christian truth. (John15:26) Jesus poured

    out this spirit upon the early Christians at

    Pentecost 33 C.E. (Acts 2:33) That outpouring

    of the holy spirit marked the founding

    of the Christian congregation. Jehovah invested

    his Son with the heavenly leadership

    of the congregation on earth. (Read Ephesians

    1:22; Colossians 1:13, 18.) Jesus guides

    the Christian congregation by means of Je-

    hovah’s holy spirit, and he has at his service

    angels who were “made subject to him.”

    —1 Pet. 3:22.

    COMMENTS

    If all authority was given to Jesus in 33 C.E., what authority did Jesus supposedly get in 1914?

    Christian congregation—only anointed Christians—jws—not non-anointed (other sheep)

    So does the holy spirit go only to the GB or does each Christian tap into it?

    8. What earthly instrument did Christ use in the

    first century to lead his disciples, and whom is he

    using today?

    8 Also by means of holy spirit, Christ gave

    “gifts in men,” some “as shepherds and

    teachers” in the congregation. (Eph. 4:8,

    11) The apostle Paul urged Christian overseers:

    “Pay attention to yourselves and to all

    the flock, among which the holy spirit has

    appointed you overseers, to shepherd the

    congregation of God.” (Acts 20:28) When

    the Christian congregation began, all these

    overseers were spirit-anointed men. The

    apostles and the elders of the Jerusalem

    congregation acted as a governing body. Christ

    used this instrument to lead the entire

    group of his anointed “brothers” on earth.

    (Heb. 2:11; Acts 16:4, 5) In this time of the

    end, Christ has committed “all his belongings”—

    all the earthly interests of the Kingdom—

    to his “faithful and discreet slave” and

    its representative Governing Body, a group

    of anointed Christian men.

    (Matt. 24:45-47) The anointed

    and their other sheep companions

    recognize that by following

    the lead of the modern-day Governing

    Body, they are in fact following

    their Leader, Christ.

    COMMENTS

    The phrase “governing body” never occurs in the Bible; the WTS explains that the trinity concept is not scriptural because the word “trinity” does not appear in the Bible. Why the difference?

    Although overseers are to “pay attention to themselves” first and foremost, why does the WTS excuse away their deliberate errors saying they are “imperfect”?

    Is there only one leader or does Christ use the GB to LEAD Christ’s brothers on earth? Only the anointed are Christ’s brothers not the other sheep.

    Does the FDS play a part or is it only represented by the GB?

    FOLLOWING THE LEAD OF THE MODERN-DAY GOVERNING BODY, THEY ARE IN FACT FOLLOWING THEIR LEADER, CHRIST.

    If there was a GB in the first century, why were anointed Christians then also following Christ through them?

    GB = CHRIST

    Christ Initiates the Preaching Work

    9, 10. How did Christ direct matters with

    regard to spreading the good news of the Kingdom?

    9 Right from the start, Jesus

    personally directed the worldwide

    preaching and teaching activity.

    He established the order in

    which the good news of the Kingdom

    was to be transmitted to the

    inhabitants of the earth. During

    his ministry, he instructed his

    apostles: “Do not go off into the road of the

    nations, and do not enter into a Samaritan

    city; but, instead, go continually to the lost

    sheep of the house of Israel. As you go,

    preach, saying, ‘The kingdom of the heavens

    has drawn near.’” (Matt. 10:5-7) They

    did this zealously among Jews and proselytes,

    especially after Pentecost 33 C.E.—Acts

    2:4, 5, 10, 11; 5:42; 6:7.

    COMMENTS

    Jesus did more than direct; he actually did talk to people.

    Do or did the elders train publishers individually in the book study setting?

    Didn’t Jesus preach to non-jews, Samaritans, Syrians?

    10 Later, by means of holy spirit, Jesus extended

    the Kingdom-preaching work to the

    Samaritans and then to other non-Jews.

    (Acts 8:5, 6, 14-17; 10:19-22, 44, 45) With a

    view to promoting the spread of the good

    news among the nations, Jesus acted personally

    to move Saul of Tarsus to become a

    Christian. Jesus instructed his disciple Ananias:

    “Rise, go to the street called Straight,

    and at the house of Judas look for a man

    named Saul, from Tarsus. . . . Be on your way,

    because this man is a chosen vessel to me to

    bear my name to the nations as well as to

    kings and the sons of Israel.” (Acts 9:3-6, 10,

    9, 10. How did Christ direct matters with regard to

    spreading the good news of the Kingdom?

    11, 15) “This man” became the apostle Paul.

    —1 Tim. 2:7.

    COMMENTS

    Were Gentiles truly welcomed? Why the need to clarify the circumcision issue? Hadn’t God sent Peter to uncircumcised even having the holy spirit come down on them in that state and even baptized? Why did Paul have to counsel the Jewish Christians on their keeping Jewish tradition and feeling it was required by Gentile Christians? Although having been used by God to bring in Cornelius and his family did Peter shun them as unclean?

    As in the past, Christ uses “gifts in men”

    to shepherd his flock (so the woman has no scroll and has to depend that the “elders” are telling her the right thing…did the elders have a library of scrolls?)

    11. How did Christ by means of holy spirit expand

    the preaching work?

    11 When the time came to expand the

    work of Kingdom preaching among the

    non-Jewish nations, heaven directed Paul on

    missionary journeys in Asia Minor and on

    into Europe. Luke’s account in Acts states:

    “As they [Christian prophets and teachers in

    the congregation in Syrian Antioch] were

    publicly ministering to Jehovah and fasting,

    the holy spirit said: ‘Of all persons set Barnabas

    and Saul apart for me for the work to

    which I have called them.’ Then they fasted

    and prayed and laid their hands upon them

    and let them go.” (Acts 13:2, 3) Jesus had

    personally called Saul of Tarsus to be His

    “chosen vessel” to bear His name to the nations;

    hence, this new impetus to the witnessing

    work came from Christ, the Leader

    of the congregation. Jesus’ use of the holy

    spirit to direct the work became unmistakably

    clear during Paul’s second missionary

    trip. The account states that “the spirit of Jesus,”

    that is, Jesus by means of holy spirit,

    guided Paul and his traveling companions in

    the choice of their itinerary, and a vision led

    them to move on into Europe.—Read Acts 16:

    6-10.

    COMMENTS

    Heaven directed Paul? How? Holy spirit…not through the GB?

    Jesus’ Leadership Over His Congregation

    12, 13. How does the book of Revelation show that

    Christ follows closely what goes on in each congregation?

    12 Jesus followed closely what was going

    on within the congregations of his anointed

    followers in the first century C.E. He had intimate

    knowledge of the spiritual condition

    of each congregation. This becomes apparent

    when we read Revelation chapters 2

    and 3.He names seven congregations, all located

    in Asia Minor. (Rev. 1:11) We have

    every reason to believe that he was just

    as familiar with the spiritual condition of

    the other congregations of his followers on

    earth at that time.—Read Revelation 2:23.

    COMMENTS

    If Jesus was just a familiar with all the other congregations, why were only 7 counseled? Didn’t they need his direction? Does this mean that Jesus has intimate knowledge of the child abuse cases in the congregation and it is his direction that the secular authorities not be notified? Are jws not to report murders?

    13 Jesus commended some of the congregations

    for their endurance, faithfulness under

    trial, loyalty to his word, and rejection of

    apostates. (Rev. 2:2, 9, 13, 19; 3:8) On the

    other hand, he gave firm counsel to several

    congregations because their love for him

    had cooled off, they countenanced idolatry

    and fornication, and they tolerated sectarianism.

    (Rev. 2:4, 14, 15, 20; 3:15, 16) As a

    loving spiritual overseer—even to those to

    whom he gave strong admonition—Jesus

    stated: “All those for whom I have affection I

    reprove and discipline. Therefore be zealous

    and repent.” (Rev. 3:19) Although in heaven,

    Jesus was leading the congregations of his

    disciples on earth by means of holy spirit. At

    the end of the messages to those congregations,

    he declared: “Let the one who has an

    ear hear what the spirit says to the congregations.”—

    Rev. 3:22.

    COMMENTS

    Jesus only commended and counseled 7 congregations…what about all the others?

    Is Jesus leading or is the GB leading?

    14-16. (a) How has Jesus proved to be a courageous

    Leader of Jehovah’s people on earth? (b) What

    has resulted from Jesus’ being “with” his disciples

    “all the days until the conclusion of the system of

    things”? (c) What will we consider in the following

    article?

    14 We have seen that Michael (Jesus)

    proved to be a valiant angelic Leader of Israel.

    Later, Jesus was a courageous Leader and a

    loving Shepherd of his early disciples. During

    his earthly ministry, he took the lead in

    the preaching work. And after his resurrection,

    he exercised close oversight of the

    spreading of the Kingdom good news.

    COMMENTS

    Does the Bible say Jesus is Michael? Michael (Jesus) brackets mean the bible does not say but the WTS will add it to the scripture.

    *** w06 5/15 p.5***Says the apostle John: “I saw an angel [the archangel Michael, or Jesus Christ] coming down out of heaven with the key of the abyss.”

    *** w04 2/1 p.20 par. 10***Revelation 12:7-9 unmasks the culprit: “War broke out in heaven: Michael [Jesus Christ] and his angels battled with the dragon [Satan the Devil], and the dragon and its angels battled but it did not prevail

    Does Jesus exercise DIRECT oversight today or only the GB?

    15 By means of holy spirit, Jesus would

    eventually extend the witnessing work to

    the ends of the earth. Before ascending to

    heaven, Jesus told his disciples: “You will receive

    power when the holy spirit arrives

    upon you, and you will be witnesses of me

    both in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria

    and to the most distant part of the

    earth.” (Acts 1:8; read 1 Peter 1:12.) Under

    Christ’s direction, a tremendous

    Witness was given in the first century.—Col.1:23.

    COMMENTS

    What does the WTS feel is the ends of the earth?

    *** w00 1/15 p.13 par. 17***Fifth,we see a global preaching work being accomplished, which Jesus said would take place just before the end of this system. Jesus stated: “This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.” (Matthew 24:14) Today, that prophecy is in the course of fulfillment on an unprecedented scale. True, untouched territories still exist, and it may be that in Jehovah’s due time, a large door leading to greater activity will open. (1 Corinthians 16:9) Nevertheless, the Bible does not state that Jehovah will wait until every individual on earth has received a personal witness. Rather, the good news must be preached to Jehovah’s satisfaction. Then the end will come.—Compare Matthew 10:23.

    *** w62 2/1 p. 96 Questions From Readers (Mt. 10:23)***Accordingly, by means of his instructions to his twelve apostles Jesus was prophetically telling us today that his anointed disciples or the remnant of spiritual Israel would not complete the circuit of the entire inhabited earth with the preaching of the message of God’s established kingdom before the glorified heavenly King Jesus Christ would arrive as Jehovah’s executional officer in the battle of Armageddon. This means that Jehovah’s witnesses today, who now include hundreds of thousands of the “other sheep” or earthly companions of the spiritual remnant, will not be able to reach personally all parts of the earth with the Kingdom message before the battle of Armageddon breaks out.

    *** w97 8/15 p. 14 par. 11***Still, Jesus’ words recorded at Matthew 10:23 are sobering: “You will by no means complete the circuit of the cities of Israel until the Son of man arrives.” While the good news will surely be announced throughout the earth, we will not in person reach all parts of the earth with the Kingdom message before Jesus “arrives” as Executioner.

    16 But Jesus himself indicated that this

    work would continue into the time of the

    end. After commissioning his followers to

    preach and to make disciples among all the

    nations, Jesus promised them: “I am with

    you all the days until the conclusion of the

    system of things.” (Matt. 28:19, 20) Since being

    invested with kingly power in 1914,

    Christ is more than ever “with” his disciples

    and active as their Leader. His intense activity

    since 1914will be examined in the following

    article.

    COMMENTS

    The WTS taught that the time of the end began in 1799 CE.

    The WTS taught that the end of the time of the end was 1914.

    The WTS taught that Jesus received kingly power in 1878.

    Who were Jesus’ “true” followers from 100 to 1879 CE?

    By Way of Review

    · ? How did God’s Son prove to be an

    · active Leader in Israel?

    · ? By what means does Christ lead his

    · congregation on earth?

    · ? How has Christ directed the spread

    · of the good news?

    · ? What shows that Christ follows closely

    · the spiritual condition of each congregation?

    ·

    CONCLUDING COMMENTS

    Next week, Our Active Leader Today. Does the GB or Jesus lead? How could they discern their inspection in 1918?

    *** w36 3/15 The Lord's Day part 1 p87 ***

    22 Even the "faithful servant" class, the remnant, did not discern the coming of the Lord to the temple at the time it occurred. Those faithful ones were fully trusting in the Lord and waiting upon him, yet it was not until 1922 that the Lord revealed to them that he was at the temple for judgment.

    Love Blondie

  • Ding
    Ding

    Blondie,

    I think I've figured out why they quit asking you to comment at the KH...

  • designs
    designs

    Blondie you are a good historian. Not many Witnesses know that the doctrine of The Christ is the 144,000 + 1

    Good job

  • Open mind
    Open mind

    Thanks Blondie for all your hard work.

    We're having dinner with JW family this evening and your comments will come in handy.

    om

  • ziddina
    ziddina

    Marking for a later read...

    Thanks, Blondie!!!

  • Nice_Dream
    Nice_Dream

    Thank you for your comments Blondie. Very insightful!

  • baltar447
    baltar447

    The one thing that jumped out at me in this article was the glaring contradiction. In one paragraph, you have the GB taking the lead with the early Christians, yet in another it clearly shows that Jesus used holy spirit to direct individuals in the preaching work.

  • JW GoneBad
    JW GoneBad

    Paragragh 1

    'Jehovah's Witnesses recognize no human as their leader.'......(bullcrap)

    'They are not disciples or followers of any man.'.......(bullcrap)

    'The international congreagation of anointed Christians and their "other sheep" companions want no leader other than the one Jehovah has given them.'.......(bullcrap)

    Paragragh 4

    Blondie: couldn't agree with you more when you say......

    'Why doesn’t God send angels to the Governing Body so they don’t have to constantly adjust their assertions? '

    As usual good job on the review comments.

  • Bonnie_Clyde
    Bonnie_Clyde

    Para 8: "In this time of the end, Christ has committed “all his belongings”— all the earthly interests of the Kingdom— to his “faithful and discreet slave” and its representative Governing Body, a group of anointed Christian men. (Matt. 24:45-47) The anointed and their other sheep companions recognize that by following the lead of the modern-day Governing Body,they are in fact following their Leader, Christ."

    Couldn't the pope and "heads" of the other religions just claim that they are also "in fact following their Leader, Christ." - see para.1.

  • clarity
    clarity

    Blondie, thanks so much for your continued good work.

    Your watchtower reviews keep us on top with what is being dished out to the poor slaves! Funny, the less we see of this stuff, the more we understand what 'they' are really saying.

    clarity

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