Posts by thedepressedsoul

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My thoughts on Geoffrey Jackson

by thedepressedsoul in

first off, i don't think that dude is going to show face.

he's most likely on a plane already.

if he shows it's bad pr and if he doesn't show it's bad pr.

thedepressedsoul

I'll bet money on it that 99% of his answers he'd just read from the bible and then remain silent.

These guys think they're god's gift to mankind.

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Jehovah Witness Wikapedia written by the same people who write the publications?

by thedepressedsoul in

i took a look at the jehovah's witnesses wikipedia page for the first time and i couldn't help but notice it was worded very closely to how jw's publications are.

the good stuff seems to be very positive while the negative items seem to be very downplayed.

the talk of persecution is enough to get your average jw wet.

thedepressedsoul

how in the world are they putting stuff on Wikipedia that isn't well sourced since we know that the policy manuals are confidential. I know anybody can write anything, but at the minimum, their statement that elders do report even in the case of one witness should be struck for lack of credible source. In fact, the actual source that can be linked without DMCA says otherwise.

I love how they put WT articles and Year Books as sources. The Watchtower and Awake doesn't even put accurate references in them!

The wiki pages seems to be one giant WT article. I'm surprised we don't study it for the midweek meeting. I can see all the heads bobbing now as they read the persecution portion.

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Jehovah Witness Wikapedia written by the same people who write the publications?

by thedepressedsoul in

i took a look at the jehovah's witnesses wikipedia page for the first time and i couldn't help but notice it was worded very closely to how jw's publications are.

the good stuff seems to be very positive while the negative items seem to be very downplayed.

the talk of persecution is enough to get your average jw wet.

thedepressedsoul

Years ago I used to edit JW related articles on WP with a pro-JW. It was a result of doing that that I discovered that many of my beliefs and behaviors as a JW were indefensible.

It's funny, as a kid I thought a JW could own anyone at the door or in a debate. Any other religious beliefs or not.

Come to find out as a young adult that it's actually the other way around. A half educated person can own your average JW belief system at a door.

Then again, a lot of teachings or "new light" lately have made it 10x harder for a JW to defend. So far, none of the JW teachings have withstood the age of time.

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Jehovah Witness Wikapedia written by the same people who write the publications?

by thedepressedsoul in

i took a look at the jehovah's witnesses wikipedia page for the first time and i couldn't help but notice it was worded very closely to how jw's publications are.

the good stuff seems to be very positive while the negative items seem to be very downplayed.

the talk of persecution is enough to get your average jw wet.

thedepressedsoul

Didn't some people figure out that IP addresses based in NYC were editing JW pages?

Wouldn't surprise me. I bet they have a whole internet/pr division that their sole purpose is media & internet damage control.

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My thoughts on Geoffrey Jackson

by thedepressedsoul in

first off, i don't think that dude is going to show face.

he's most likely on a plane already.

if he shows it's bad pr and if he doesn't show it's bad pr.

thedepressedsoul

I do wish someone could send the commission the 2013 watchtower explaining that all JWs have to obey the slave regardless!

Agreed! Although I have to say, I'm really impressed by how much research the commission has already done and what they already know. They've dug very deep, not just the surface. Everyday they surprise me what they bring to light or notice is BS.

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My thoughts on Geoffrey Jackson

by thedepressedsoul in

first off, i don't think that dude is going to show face.

he's most likely on a plane already.

if he shows it's bad pr and if he doesn't show it's bad pr.

thedepressedsoul

At this point, the RC's bullshit meter has buried the f**king needle.

Yea, it took them a few days to see the level of BS. Sadly, it takes your average JW a lifetime, if ever.

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My thoughts on Geoffrey Jackson

by thedepressedsoul in

first off, i don't think that dude is going to show face.

he's most likely on a plane already.

if he shows it's bad pr and if he doesn't show it's bad pr.

thedepressedsoul

They're on record as having asked nicely.
If he keeps saying no, they don't have to ask nicely anymore.

These GB members think everyone else should give an answer, defend their faith, but them. They have their own rule book to play by. Heck, "They don't answer to WT".

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Jehovah Witness Wikapedia written by the same people who write the publications?

by thedepressedsoul in

i took a look at the jehovah's witnesses wikipedia page for the first time and i couldn't help but notice it was worded very closely to how jw's publications are.

the good stuff seems to be very positive while the negative items seem to be very downplayed.

the talk of persecution is enough to get your average jw wet.

thedepressedsoul

I took a look at the Jehovah's Witnesses Wikipedia page for the first time and I couldn't help but notice it was worded very closely to how JW's publications are.

The good stuff seems to be very positive while the negative items seem to be very downplayed. The talk of persecution is enough to get your average JW wet. It's found over 15 times on their one page! Their demographics looks straight out of a Year Book article. Their Persecution section is almost the largest one.

The biggest thing is their "Handling of sexual abuse cases". It's very downplayed and fails to mention cases they lost, money paid out or on going troubles. It fails to mention their two witness rule, 3 star chamber, not encouraging police reporting and many of the other issues that are being brought up.

Heck! It even starts off by saying this, "Jehovah's Witnesses' official policy states that elders are directed to report sexual abuse cases to authorities when there is evidence of abuse, and when required to by law, even if there is only one witness to the abuse.[357] According to the policy, an individual known to have sexually abused a child is generally prohibited from holding any position of responsibility inside the organization.[358] Unless considered by the congregation elders to have demonstrated repentance, such a person is typically disfellowshipped."

Not sure about you guys but what's been brought out in the courts paints a very different "official" policy that they have.

Their whole section seems very biased and downplayed to me. Not to mention all the references are from WT publications.

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My thoughts on Geoffrey Jackson

by thedepressedsoul in

first off, i don't think that dude is going to show face.

he's most likely on a plane already.

if he shows it's bad pr and if he doesn't show it's bad pr.

thedepressedsoul

I find it hilarious that they've been trying so hard the last few years to distance the GB from any "responsibility" to the public, while making themselves more god like internally.

Jw's may not see past the BS, but guess what, the courts are. They are seeing you're responsible no matter how you legally try to set yourselves up.

Two faced organization. Want all the glimmer and the power without the responsibility or accountability. It's about time everyone sees it.

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Is the Commisioner aware that there are internal rules vs what they are being given?

by thedepressedsoul in

i have been following the events taken place in australia and i cannot help but notice that the jw's are feeding them a bunch of bull.

it reminds me of the faq on jw.org.

we all know there is a very different internal view/teaching than the jw.org faq would lead you to believe.

thedepressedsoul

Great! Glad to hear all of you have done your part! I haven't been able to follow this closely and my first concern was their internal rules that differ from what they tell the public. 2ndly, was the theocratic warfare lies.

I believe Jesus put it nicely when he said treat others the way you want to be treated. Guess the WT should have followed that with it's own members.