Posts by ellderwho

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Making 607 crumble

by ellderwho in

during my eight month long study with "elder bob" (moms husband) we have batted around many subjects to say the least.

but the one that really stands out is the dreaded date of 607 bc.

im sorry i just will not let up with this date, and him having to prove it can stand.

Did God create man to live forever?

by shotgun in

dubs always point back to genisis as a last resort and say ....well he created them to live forever, it was his original purpose.. where does it say that?.

genisis says that they were to multiply and fill the earth not that they would live forever.

if they were to live forever what was the tree of life for?.

Making 607 crumble

by ellderwho in

during my eight month long study with "elder bob" (moms husband) we have batted around many subjects to say the least.

but the one that really stands out is the dreaded date of 607 bc.

im sorry i just will not let up with this date, and him having to prove it can stand.

Thanks! I have my weekly study on Monday nights. I just got home. He stewed all week over 607 an AK Graysons vol 4 comentary on Neo-Bab. rulerships. But he threw me a curveball that I wasnt expecting it was the " 20th year of Artaxerxes" and the "70 weeks" of Daniel.

I researched this subject briefly but not enough to tangle with him.( he's no light weight) which is a good thing, challenge wise. The only rebuttal I gave on this subject was the fact that the Society changes yet another date to line up the 70 weeks to eventually arrive at 29AD.

Carl Jonsson did a great peice on this back in ' 89. However I was unable to recall some of the strong points other than the 10 years.

E

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Did God create man to live forever?

by shotgun in

dubs always point back to genisis as a last resort and say ....well he created them to live forever, it was his original purpose.. where does it say that?.

genisis says that they were to multiply and fill the earth not that they would live forever.

if they were to live forever what was the tree of life for?.

ellderwho

125

Making 607 crumble

by ellderwho in

during my eight month long study with "elder bob" (moms husband) we have batted around many subjects to say the least.

but the one that really stands out is the dreaded date of 607 bc.

im sorry i just will not let up with this date, and him having to prove it can stand.

ellderwho

City

LOL to the enth power

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Did God create man to live forever?

by shotgun in

dubs always point back to genisis as a last resort and say ....well he created them to live forever, it was his original purpose.. where does it say that?.

genisis says that they were to multiply and fill the earth not that they would live forever.

if they were to live forever what was the tree of life for?.

ellderwho

48

Did God create man to live forever?

by shotgun in

dubs always point back to genisis as a last resort and say ....well he created them to live forever, it was his original purpose.. where does it say that?.

genisis says that they were to multiply and fill the earth not that they would live forever.

if they were to live forever what was the tree of life for?.

ellderwho

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What I have learned about Rolf Furuli

by Faraon in

on a recent thread about the year of the destruction of jerusalem, i learned from "scholar" about rolf furuli.. i looked up his name in google, and came with a few interesting links.

all i can say is that i am glad there aren't too many witnesses going to universities, especially those claiming to be researchers.

first they must take their blinds off.. a review of rolf furuli's book "the role of theology and bias in bible translation".

ellderwho

Faraon,

Good stuff, Its obivious from scholars posts of threads past his inability to build upon any defense whatsoever. Thanks for the links about Furuli.

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Making 607 crumble

by ellderwho in

during my eight month long study with "elder bob" (moms husband) we have batted around many subjects to say the least.

but the one that really stands out is the dreaded date of 607 bc.

im sorry i just will not let up with this date, and him having to prove it can stand.

ellderwho

Scholar,

during Nebuchadnezzar's seventh regnal year ending in Nisan 617 BCE according to the Babylonian Chronicles

Well................. finish your king list

So his 43rd year would be what ? 582

Evilmerodach is............................582---?? 2 years

Neriglissar....................................580---576 4years

Labashi-Marduk............................576-----------9 months

Nabonidus....................................577---539 38 years ???

Can you help me Scholar???? According to the Babylonian Chronicles???

125

Making 607 crumble

by ellderwho in

during my eight month long study with "elder bob" (moms husband) we have batted around many subjects to say the least.

but the one that really stands out is the dreaded date of 607 bc.

im sorry i just will not let up with this date, and him having to prove it can stand.

ellderwho

Simiwitness,Cityfan,

In light of the inability of "scholar" to answer any questions regarding 607 and the pages of posts that show this, I have to compare this with my elder study although a investigatator for a Federal defender office in a big eastern city by day, and a devout JW elder the rest of the time and a history buff.

I know his profession by day deals strictly with facts, and his beliefs he has to rely on someone telling him what the facts are in the case of 607 is troubling for him as shown by his outside sourcing of information re: AK Graysons work that is referenced by the society. When he got Graysons book and we looked at it together, he went in thinking ah ha now Im going to answer all your questions.

Well as he started to read in and around the societys quoted pages it became clear to him that the author the society quotes from is really of no value, because the author in no way shows proof that 607 can stand but refutes it all the through the book.

The society will reference authors here and there to make it appear to the Jw that the society has done their homework, and as we've seen if in fact homework is done, the truth starts to become clear as the author is found out to be mis-quoted and the information quoted is irrelevant.

Back to 607 Ive asked Scholar to give the date of Nebuchadrezzars starting rule. He will not. But he wont, not because he doesnt have a date, he will not because it will trap him.

Im just a regular 'joe' Scholars knowlege far surpasses mine, I guess? But where the ignorance of scholar is revealed is in his inability to reconcile years given by the society to fit into the societys own given years.

If the society has it right then show us all here with their work and dates given.

So lets throw out 607, 586/7 and start with King Nebs rule whata you think scholar?