this is only part of the story..too long to copy..but it raises the question of cloning.
human to human cloning has been done but how do we feel about animal to human cloning?
are centaurs really a fairy tale or a possibility?
I would always be thinking that that mirror image is NOT the original and will not act, react, be...the same person. We are a product of everything that happens to us and that series of events could never be duplicated.
Even if it was a pet....I would always know it wasnt my originally deeply loved pet sitting there.
i followed my instincts that the changes my 14 year old son is going through ran deeper than teenaged angst and i made an appointment for him to see a counselor through the county so he could talk to someone.
it took two months to get it.
we went yesterday, he and i. i spoke for a little about our life now, including the separation, the house, the jws, the shunning, my husbands alcoholism and his treatment of the kids, my husbands familial bipolar and depression and adhd...and then she spoke to my son separately.
I finally got my PMs open...hugs to all of you. I went to our first "family" session which was with a counselor in a small office. The facility is trying hard to be upbeat but its very VERY tight security. Thats good. The kids have a very strict schedule and there are about 10 of them there, all adolescents. They have group, individual, meals, free time, a regular schedule of things they need to do and I brought him some more clothes because his stay is undetermined yet.
His father and I met there...we came in separate cars, and sat in silence in the waiting room for half an hour. We were photographed and all our possessions locked up. We walked across the "campus" to where the adolescents were and were brought into a gathering room where some kids were drawing and there was a TV and many tables. We went into a little office and a lady asked some basic questions and was pretty blunt about it all, but thats what we are there for. She went and got S. He hugged us almost grudgingly and cautiously. He didnt say much and didnt respond directly to anything she asked. So I told him that we were here to learn...to communicate better, to let those things go that are hurting us, to talk if not to each other to SOMEONE but to get the pain out somehow.
His dad commented that S was like his dad and "didnt share his emotions with anyone because" his dad said, "he didnt TRUST anyone to know how he felt about anything because "then they would use it against him" so he told no one...or he would tell total strangers he knew he would never see again." He also said, "I am not surprised you didnt share your feelings with me, but Im also not surprised you didnt share them with your mother." Nice. Well, he and I arent separated after 22 years of marriage because he EVER, not one time, shared how he felt about anything with me...his wife. So... I just sat there and didnt say anything.
Im not about placing any blame during this process. Its time to move forward and fix this, and a time for his dad and I to look at ourselves too. So that cant be a bad thing. It might be a blessing in disguise.
I hated to leave him, but he seemed ok there. And I could see he felt safe there.
love, LD
i followed my instincts that the changes my 14 year old son is going through ran deeper than teenaged angst and i made an appointment for him to see a counselor through the county so he could talk to someone.
it took two months to get it.
we went yesterday, he and i. i spoke for a little about our life now, including the separation, the house, the jws, the shunning, my husbands alcoholism and his treatment of the kids, my husbands familial bipolar and depression and adhd...and then she spoke to my son separately.
We have our first "family" meeting today at 3:30. Thank you to all of you you are my soft place to fall. I cant read your PMs for some reason so I hope someone can help with that.
Im nervous ...this is all so foreign.
hugs, D
i followed my instincts that the changes my 14 year old son is going through ran deeper than teenaged angst and i made an appointment for him to see a counselor through the county so he could talk to someone.
it took two months to get it.
we went yesterday, he and i. i spoke for a little about our life now, including the separation, the house, the jws, the shunning, my husbands alcoholism and his treatment of the kids, my husbands familial bipolar and depression and adhd...and then she spoke to my son separately.
SIMON
I cant open any of my PM messages all it says is this: help!!
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i followed my instincts that the changes my 14 year old son is going through ran deeper than teenaged angst and i made an appointment for him to see a counselor through the county so he could talk to someone.
it took two months to get it.
we went yesterday, he and i. i spoke for a little about our life now, including the separation, the house, the jws, the shunning, my husbands alcoholism and his treatment of the kids, my husbands familial bipolar and depression and adhd...and then she spoke to my son separately.
I followed my instincts that the changes my 14 year old son is going through ran deeper than teenaged angst and I made an appointment for him to see a counselor through the County so he could talk to someone. It took two months to get it. We went yesterday, he and I. I spoke for a little about our life now, including the separation, the house, the JWs, the shunning, my husbands alcoholism and his treatment of the kids, my husbands familial bipolar and depression and ADHD...and then she spoke to my son separately. He was silent whle I was in the room, leaning away from me and not looking at me at all. She spoke to him for an hour. When I was called back in she was handing me the address of a hospital, telling me she wanted him to see the psychiatrist immediately, and to expect him to be admitted there as he was and is thinking about suicide!! I felt every cell in my body go limp at those word. I feared they were true and here they were being confirmed.
I took him up to the hospital, still in shock, and still in silence between us, and in the midst of screaming drunk adults, crying kids, handcuffed prisoners and cops, and Baker Acted people...they put my little boy in a gown, interviewed him and took him away to the adolescent ward. He told them he wanted this, I could not make him go but agreed with his decision, and in fact he was trying to calm and reassure ME because I was hysterical by then...but I saw there was a relief in his eyes, like someone was finally going to hear him. They said he might be there 3 or 4 days. :*(
I would cease to exist if anything ever happened to that little boy....life would cease.
Please keep us in your prayers.
ok...im not divorced just separated.
i just last year started a job but im part time hopefully going on full time, and certainly cant afford to live on my own.
i have the two youngest kids with me.
Thank you guys soooo much. Blondie girl..you rock sistah. Valuable info. There.
I really do think we need to get something in writing so he knows what he needs to come up with and I know how much I have to deal with....always.
LD :)
anyway, i can't get "i'll go no more a-rovin'" out of my head.... .
mark well what i do say,.
- i'll go no more a ro -oovin' with you, fair maid!.
No but when I think about them THIS one comes to mind...
"Fire Water Burn"
The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire,
The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire,
The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire,
We don't need no water let the m-erf-er burn,
Burn m-erf-er burn.
(from the "things the watchtower never taught you" series.
jehovah isn't going to be bringing paradise along anytime soon, so it falls to you to provide for yourself.
one of the best ways to do this is by saving money.
In this economy, I ONLY trust banking my money and wouldnt go into the stock market in ANY form. So this sounds like a good plan! I wonder if I will live long enough now, at almost 55, to see it to fruition?
How much money in interest a month does this plan generate once it gets going Nathan?
(checking pockets, sofa seats, laundry lint catch....for MONEY now LOL!)
Saving is like dieting you just GOTTA DO IT and quit making excuses for why you cant!!
ok...im not divorced just separated.
i just last year started a job but im part time hopefully going on full time, and certainly cant afford to live on my own.
i have the two youngest kids with me.
Ok...Im not divorced just separated. I just last year started a job but Im part time hopefully going on full time, and certainly cant afford to live on my own. I have the two youngest kids with me. Almost 18 and almost 14. We were self employed for most of our marriage. So after 22 years of marriage I should, I believe, get alimony AND child support.
I saw a form online for trying to figure this out in Florida but damn its complicated. How do I know whats fair?
right here right now...list the indisputable evidence that your religion has the truth above all others.
i even grant you permission to count your time while doing so.. ....waiting.
crickets.....
more crickets....
