Everlasting life hinders progress

by Satanus 12 Replies latest jw friends

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  Satanus

  Sounds funny. But, if life spans were into hundreds of yrs, or even thousands, i think change would be very slow. It is always the new generation that rebels against their parents' ways, bringing in change. The previous generation resists. Imagine lifespans of thousands of yrs. The world controlers would become so thoroughly entrenched, change would be next to inpossible.

  It's true that the wt ideal is based on an 'eternal' govt. If this wt idea were more than a mere fiction, we would still be riding donkeys like the ot jews did. Horses were unclean, not to be used by jews. The world king would be residing in jerusalem.

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  DannyBloem

  yes, this theme you see sometimes with Science Fiction writers also.

  It is probably true, however not starting again everytime is also someting. A good scientist would be more able to do more, it takes so much years to learn until you are at the current understanding now.
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  Carmel

  Would salmon still come back every three years?

  concerned carmel
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  Satanus

  Danny

  A good scientist would be more able to do more, it takes so much years to learn until you are at the current understanding now.

  In many cases that is true, perhaps where analytical skills are needed. As far as creativity and thinking outside of the box, they seem to peak before old age sets in. In their latter yrs, often scientists and researchers are coasting on previous accomplishments, or finessing the details, or in management. 'Couse, it's not always true.

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  blondie

  Horses were unclean, not to be used by jews.

  I don't think horses were unclean animals. But ownership was restricted to the kings and they were restricted in how many they could have.

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  it-1 p. 1145 Horse ***

  Horses are mentioned among the beasts of burden that would be used to transport God’s scattered people to Jerusalem. (Isa 66:20) It is therefore notable that in the first fulfillment of the restoration prophecies, the returning Jews brought back 736 horses.—Ezr 2:1, 66; Ne 7:68.

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  it-1 pp. 1144-1145 Horse ***

  God’s chosen people of ancient times, the Israelites, though, were not to be like the Egyptians and other contemporary nations that considered horses and chariots indispensable to safety and independence. Israel’s kings were forbidden to increase horses for themselves. (De 17:15, 16) Instead of trusting in military might, horses, and chariots, the Israelites were to look to Jehovah for help, and they were never to become fearful of the war equipment of their foes.—De 20:1-4; Ps 20:7; 33:17; Ho 1:7.

  King David of Israel was mindful of Jehovah’s prohibition against multiplying horses. In his victory over Hadadezer of Zobah, David could have added many horses to his army, but, instead, he kept only the number he deemed sufficient for his immediate purposes and ordered the remainder to be hamstrung.—2Sa 8:3, 4; 1Ch 18:3, 4; compare Jos 11:6, 9; see HAMSTRING.
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  Satanus

  Horses fell into the category of the unsplit hoof and not chewing cud. So, they were unclean. However, they were so useful in burden bearing, transportation and warfare, that a concession was made for them. But really, they were as unclean as pigs were. This just shows that even in the bible rules could be bent when it came to survival. The restriction on increasing the number of horses just just a token recognition of the horse prohibition. Moses f$%^&d up.

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  Blondie

  The wt seems to be sidestepping this issue. Notice this quote:

  *** it-1 pp. 488-489 Colors ***

  The white horse, as portrayed at Revelation 6:2 and 19:11, symbolizes clean, righteous warfare under Jesus Christ’s direction.

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  it-1 p. 1176 Illustrations ***

  We could conclude, therefore, that the white horse represents righteous warfare

  http://biblicalholidays.com/Biblical%20kosher.htm

  Clean animals include cows, sheep, goats, and deer. Unclean animals include pigs, horses, camels, rats, cats, dogs, snakes, raccoons, squirrels, and most insects. Clean birds include chicken, turkeys, geese, ducks, and doves. Unclean birds include eagles, sparrows, and crows. Clean seafood includes salmon, trout, and other fish with fins and scales. Unclean seafood includes catfish, sharks, shrimp, eel, octopus, squid, shellfish, and whales.

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  blondie

  So Jews could use them but not for food.
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  tetrapod.sapien

  it's true, that if science was able to radically extend human life span, everything would change. things could get very very dreadful (everlasting tyrants), or could be managed in a way that ensured self correction and change.

  this kind of connects with your monotheism world gov't thread from yesterday.
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  Satanus

  The wt's own history shows the weakeness of the everlasting life premise. Imagine if russel had been running the wt ever since. It would have been better than rutherford, but, we they would still be studying pyramidology and other wierd math, probably embracing fringe new age concepts, attempting to turn black people white, have celebate marriages, etc.

  Tetra

  I suppose it does, frank herbert dune and all that.

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