How Does the Governing Body Extend its Control Over the Many Organizations?

by frankiespeakin 57 Replies latest jw friends

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    How Does the Governing Body Extend its Control Over the Many Organizations that they made back in the year 2000 ?

    I think they have some type of By-Laws in these corparations where they are to be in subjection to the wishes of the GB.

    Also thier may be some stipulations that the controlling members of each seperate corperation must be in good standing and can not function in any capacity if they are disfellowshipped. Thus the GB can alway use thier unlimited power to DF to bring members in line or remove them if the GB feel threated.

    I would think that the by-laws of these seperate entities are somewhat similar to the by-laws that form the congregation corperations in order for the congregation to be a legal corperation that can own property, where the by-laws state that they must remain in subjection to the GB.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    What would indeed be interesting is a consideration of how these newly formed corporations could rebel against the wishes of the GB and still keep functioning with the same corporation executives still in a position of controlling power.

    Also the theoretical power struggle that could pose a dramatic loss in power for the geriatric partially senial Governing Body, with an insuieng chaos for the whole organization.

    These individual corporations no doubt were formed because of the currant legal trouble the main corporation is facing in the courts with possible massive law suits looming in the horrizon.

    While this move may allow them to play a shell game with thier assets, and thus limit how much money the courts can abstract from from the main controlling corporation, I see it as a major headache for the GB in the very near future as these very old men probably have a hard time with figures and creativity need to keep everything in subjection,, no doubt due to hardening of the arteries restricting the blood supply to the brain.

    I see a very turbulant future for these self proclaimed spokemen for God.

    I would be very interested to hear from some that are knowledgable in this area of corporate management.

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    To be on these corporations they have already proved themselves GB ass-kissers and diehard loyalists

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Still,

    While that may be true it is no guarentee they will remain such or that they ever were sincere ass kissers.

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    True Ray Franz himself was once a diehard as was Ed Dunlap

  • Rod P
    Rod P

    Well, I think it may well depend on the legal relationship amongst the respective corporations. By that I mean, what exactly are each of the Shareholdings. Who are the shareholders of each of these companies? If they are all different relative to each other, then they would be dealing at "arm's length" from each other. On the other hand, if they are wholly-owned subsidiaries of a parent corporation that is owned and controlled by the members of the Governing Body, then the GB would be in a position to totally control these other corporations. I wish I knew more about the actual share structure because that give us a pretty darn good picture of who really is in control of what.

    A corporation is a separate "Person" in law. You cannot make the by-laws of one corporation rule over another corporation. But you can produce resolutions in the minute book of a company that would authorize that company to enter into (an) agreement(s) with another corporation that sets out the terms and conditions that two companies agree to operate or conduct business, etc. between them, and also to ratify any such agreement that has been entered into. Therefore, it would be quite interesting to see what agreements by, between and amongst the relevant corporations of this Corporate Group.

    Now I suspect that the Shares may well be issued to one or more associated or related corporations for precisely the reason that if the shareholders were individuals, and one or more of them apostacized or died.

    If a death was involved, then the shares become part of that person's estate, at which point the beneficiaries of that estate may inherit these shares, unless they were sold to another party. This would have the serious potential to change the effective control of that corporation, which could theoretically have an adverse affect on the relationship of that corporation to the GB in the future. Unless, of course, there was in place a Shareholder Buy-Sell Agreement with the right of first refusal whereby the existing shareholders could buy out the deceased's shares, thus protecting the control of the corporation and its policies, thereby perpetuating and protecting existing relationships with the GB.

    If apostasy and disfellowshipment were involved, then existing shareholders would have on their hands a "hostile shareholder". I would think that if the shares were issued to individuals, that again, there would be a Shareholder Buy-Sell Agreement that would make provision for existing shareholders to buy out the emerging hostile shareholder in the event of disfellowshipment. That way they could still control the corporate destiny, and could not be held hostage by a dissident shareholder.

    For the above reasons, I suspect that the shares are issued to corporations in some kind of hierarchy that either directly or indirectly effectively gives control to the GB. The reason I am less than certain about this kind of scenario has to do with the fact that if all these corporations are owned and controlled by one parent corporation owned and controlled by an entity owned and controlled by the GB, then whatever happens to the Parentco could adversely affect the company subsidiaries.

    (I am aware that the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is a whole other matter, which I understand has about 500 shareholders and is the publishing company that has been around for most of the JW history.)

    It would be helpful if anyone on this forum could shed some light on the corporate structures that are in place. I would think that all these corporations are a matter of public record.

    Rod P.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Rod,

    Good point especially this:

    It would be helpful if anyone on this forum could shed some light on the corporate structures that are in place. I would think that all these corporations are a matter of public record.
    If these are a matter of public record how could we get our hands on them and post them on this forum for all to see.
  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Could some of our double agents from bethel post the by-laws it would be most appreciated. I don't think it would be too risky for some of you seeing that many members have access to these. Or email them to someone if affraid to post.

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    The way they exercise control is by dividing the different capabilities into different corporations. Together they can all function; separate they are doomed to fail.

    One corporation handles writing, another handles publishing, another handles the congregations, another handles ministry work, etc... If any one or two tried to "go astray" they would be doomed to failure because they would be denied the services of the other corporations that are critical to their ability to function.

    It is the "united we stand, divided we fall" theory.

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    Else,

    Seeing that the GB is very old and not too smart I'm sure something could be could be done to out smart them and sieze power. Someone that is respected, and has intelligence to make all the right moves.

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