What Can You Tell Me About Scientology??

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  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Thanks candid. I found it here http://ninemsn.video.msn.com/video/p.htm?mkt=en-au&m=News&mi=60%20Minutes&i=6da3db1b-e4b2-421a-aeed-7d5f82ac5535&p=AUnews_AU60minutes&rf=http://sixtyminutes.ninemsn

    .com.au/sixtyminutes/stories/2005_06_05/story_1400.asp You need to copy and paste the pieces to get there. As a scientology spokesman, cruise is really good. He puts jws spokesmen to shame. He can switch from actor to scientologist to father to regular guy, thus cloaking his scientology stuff. Sort of a stealth scientologist.

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  • minimus
    minimus

    I think people are looking at Tom Cruise like he's a crackpot.

  • Panda
    Panda

    I think Tom Cruise is on an emotional high --- new young energetic fiance has accepted his religion ie., followed his mature lead --- he will procreate with this nubile actress and raise children to worship the volcano planted people. It's like when a JW gets rid of a non-believing spouse and marries some young hottie (I saw a sister in her 30s marry a 17 yr old and man did they ever become lovers of the JAH) See what blessings the true believers get!

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Cruise didn't screw up in that subtly hostile interview. He outed the interviewer's skepticism and played the magnanimous guest at the end.

    He's going to suck in some people. To a lot of people scientology has a techy science of mental health image. People who are suspiscious of the big drug companies and their latest new lights, or who have suffered bad reactions to drugs, some of those could see scientology as an alternative.

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  • blondie
    blondie

    Celebrity Scientologists

    Anne Archer

    Beck Hansen

    Billy Sheehan

    Carina Ricco

    Carl W. Röhrig

    Catherine Bell

    Chick Corea

    Chris Masterson

    Corin Nemec

    Danny Masterson

    Edgar Winter

    Eduardo Palomo

    Erika Christensen

    Geoffrey Lewis

    Giovanni Ribisi

    Greta Van Susteren

    Haywood Nelson

    Isaac Hayes

    Jason Beghe

    Jason Lee

    Jeff Pomerantz

    Jenna Elfman

    Jennifer Aspen

    John Travolta

    Judy Norton

    Juliette Lewis

    Karen Nelson Bell

    Kate Ceberano

    Keith Code

    Kelly Preston

    Kimberly Kates

    Kirstie Alley

    Leah Remini

    Lisa Marie Presley

    Lynsey Bartilson

    Marisol Nichols

    Michael Fairman

    Michael Roberts

    Michelle Stafford

    Nancy Cartwright

    Pablo Santos

    Priscilla Presley

    Rev. Alfreddie Johnson, Jr.

    Sharon Case

    Sofia Milos

    Terry Jastrow

    Tom Cruise

    Xavier Deluc

    http://www.scientology-kills.org/celebrities/celebrities.htm

    The list of celebrity Scientologists now includes Cruise, Kidman, Priscilla Presley, Lisa Marie Presley, Anne Archer, Juliette Lewis, Kelly Preston, John Travolta, Mimi Rogers, Karen Black, and Kirstie Alley. There are dozens of lesser-known Scientologists in show biz as well: Lee Purcell (Big Wednesday), Jeff Pomerantz (General Hospital), Geoffrey Lewis (Juliette's dad, who was in Every Which Way but Loose, among other movies), Judy Norton-Taylor (The Waltons), Nancy Cartwright (the voice of Bart Simpson), child TV actor Vonni Ribisi (My Two Dads), Michael Wiseman (Predator 2), Kimberley Kates (Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure), Michael D. Roberts (Rain Man), and Gary Imhoff (the forthcoming Thumbelina). Then there are the behind-the-scenes talents: Dick Tracy screenwriter Floyd Mutrux; composer Mark Isham (A River Runs Through It); actor and acting teacher Manu Tupou (Hawaii); and director Dror Soref (The Seventh Coin), who cut his teeth on Scientology films and now has a deal at Paramount. Scientology even claims one of Hollywood's most successful acting teachers, Milton Katselas, who heads the Beverly Hills Playhouse.

    People who have drifted through Scientology include Jerry Seinfeld, Patrick Swayze, Top Gun producer Don Simpson, Harvey Haber (brother of CAA cofounder Bill Haber), actor Brad Pitt, and Ernest Lehman, screenwriter of The Sound of Music.

    http://www.bible.ca/scientology-poor-famous-members.htm

    http://www.bubblegun.com/features/scientology.html

    Nevertheless, we felt somehow compelled to produce this in-depth feature. Here are 13 Things You Genuinely Never Knew about Hollywood's favourite "religion"…

    1. The Church Of Scientology was formed in Los Angeles in 1954, by science fiction author L. Ron Hubbard. In 1923 Hubbard had begun studies into the mind and spirit, and it was upon his findings that Scientology's principles were established. Scientology claims to offer "A precise path leading to a complete and certain understanding of one's true spiritual nature and of one's relationship with self, family, groups, mankind, all life forms, the material universe, the spiritual universe and the Supreme Being, or infinity." During his life, Hubbard wrote over 500,000 pages of Scientology theology. Though he apparently died a multi-millionaire in 1986, The Church Of Scientology tells us: "Although Mr. Hubbard departed his body in 1986, he is still with us in spirit."
    2. The prime belief among Scientologists is that Man is a spiritual entity, or "Thetan", capable of feats beyond those which he will normally envisage. Scientologists claim they are able to unlock these abilities through processes known as "Dianetics". Among the beliefs taught through Dianetics, is the belief that mental pictures of, say, the breakfast you had this morning, aren't merely memories but are composed of energy, and have weight and mass within three dimensional space. Scientology teaches that all of the "mental image pictures" you accumulate through your life are known as your "time track". Certain types of particularly vivid "mental image pictures" are called "engrams". Dianetics explains engrams clearly via the following equation: "A=A=A=A=A". Scientologist processes attempt to erase false engrams in followers, resulting in a state of mind known as "Clear". Scientologists would like to "Clear the planet". That is, "eliminate war, crime and insanity". Geddit?
    3. Like Christians, Jews, and that, Scientologists have their own special symbol. It comprises the letter "S", and a double triangle. The points of the lower triangle represent the "ARC": Affinity, Reality and Communication. The upper triangle is the "KRC" triangle, representing Knowledge, Responsibility and Control.
    4. Unlike other religions, which are primarily based around books and stupid statues, like Jedi Knights, Scientologists use advanced, futuristic technology to "audit" its members. Auditing is the process whereby Scientology ministers cure spiritual upset. They do this using an instrument known as an "electro-psychometer", or "E-Meter". It is an electronic device used to test the mental state of an individual. The E-Meter does this by running a small electric current through a person's body, and reads the "mental image pictures" flowing through the "Thetan". The area of spiritual trauma is then pinpointed by an "Auditor", via the E-Meter's readout.
    5. Within Scientology there are several governing bodies. The Office Of Special Affairs directs the legal affairs of the Church, and works to expose violations of human rights, and close down Internet sites which are particularly critical of Scientology. The alleged secret purpose of the OSA is as follows: "1.To provide early warning of threats to Scientology or its leaders. 2.To discover the extent of information on Scientology held by governments. 3.To unearth compromising information on opponents of Scientology. "
    6. Another semi-secret division of Scientologyis the Flag Service Organisation. Based upon a 450 long ship, off the coast of Florida, "Flag" deals in advanced spiritual training and auditing. Another division, The Sea Organisation, is composed of the most dedicated Scientologists in the world - a bit like the Jedi Council, in The Phantom Menace. Like Flag, it is run from a number of ships, and members must sign a token billion-year contract dedicating their life to Scientology.
    7. Those within the upper echelons of Scientology are privy to a number of scriptures and texts that are kept from public view. These texts are said to deal with very advanced levels of spiritual counselling, and are kept hidden because "premature exposure could impede spiritual development".
    8. Scientology is supported financially by its members. Though it runs a small number of free churches, the path to spiritual enlightenment does not come cheap. Perhaps explaining the high number of millionaire celebrities who are advocates of Scientology, those wishing to "go Clear", can expect to be asked for a donation of at least £5,000. More intensive "processing" can cost up to £26,000.
    9. Then again, The Church Of Scientology actively courts high-profile celebrity members, and has set up special "Celebrity Centres" around the world, offering Dianetics services to "artists and professionals in such fields as the performing arts, fine arts, sports and business." You know - high-profile people with lots of money, basically.
    10. As well as Travolta and Alley, other confirmed celebrity Scientologists include Priscilla and Lisa Marie Presley, singer Al "Moonlighting Theme Tune" Jarreau, and - shocker! - Nancy Cartwright, who does the voice of Bart Simpson.
    11. Among those who have opposed Scientology are the psychiatric profession, the US security services, and "Germans".
    12. Some former Scientologists have claimed that the Church held them against their will. One Lisa McPherson was allegedly held for 17 days against her will, before dying while in the custody of the Church. The state of Florida has subsequently filed charges, while McPherson's family have sued for imprisonment and wrongful death. Several high-ranking Scientologists were convicted for stealing government documents, while founder L. Ron Hubbard himself was once convicted of fraud by a French court.
    13. According to the Church's doctrine, anyone who speaks out against Scientology "Cannot be granted the rights and beingness ordinarily accorded rational beings."
    14. In one of Hubbard's early writings on Scientology doctrine, The Creation Of Human Ability, the author discusses "R2-45". Not a character in Star Wars Episode 2, R2-45 is actually described as "a highly effective process for exteriorization, but its use is frowned upon by this society at this time". This isn't terribly surprising, given that "exteriorization" is Scientology speak for "being killed". Opponents of Scientology have alleged that R2-45 is a codename used when ordering the murder of opponents. Perhaps he's an assassin droid, or something.
    15. However, not all of Scientology is scary; some of it is just plain mad. Scientologists believe they have been being reincarnated for four quadrillion years - before the creation of the universe even. Scientologists seek a return to this "energy state", and seek to become an "operating thetan" - a being who, like Ben Kenobi after he died, is comprised entirely of energy, but is capable of causing physical events through sheer force of will.
    16. It gets better. According to Hubbard, the planet Earth - then known as "Teegeeack" - was once part of a Galactic Federation along with 76 other planets. However, 95 million years ago the Federation was suffering from over-population, and so the Federation's evil ruler, Xenu, captured billions of alien species, transported them to Earth, and killed them all by detonating the planet's volcanoes using hydrogen bombs, and then harvested their spirits. Hubbard called this "Incident II" (Incident I being the creation of the universe, or something like that). The Sea Organisation's insignia carries 22 stars, relating to the 22 planets which had their populations decimated by Incident II. Most Scientologists will not even say the name "Xenu", and others will allegedly pretend they've never even heard of him. Bonkers it may be, but so is some guy who walks on water, and turns water into wine, and pulls fish out of his arse at weddings.
  • hubert
    hubert

    Established in 1844: America's Oldest Catholic Newspaper In Continuous Publication Friday June 17, 2005

    Scientology, Christian Science aren’t connected
    by: FATHER CHARLES BOBER

    QUESTION: I read that Tom Cruise’s new fiancé left the Catholic Church to join him in the Church of Scientology. Can you write something about that church?

    QUESTION: Are the Church of Scientology and the Christian Scientists the same group?

    ANSWER: In 1866, a woman named Mary Baker Eddy had a religious experience through which she claimed a healing. It seems that originally she did not intend to establish a separate church but rather hoped that all religious groups would appreciate her insights and make use of her teachings. When this did not occur, she founded the First Church of Christ, Scientist (in Boston in 1879).

    The teachings of Christian Science hold that humans are fundamentally good and made in the image and likeness of God. The existence of evil (sin, suffering, poverty and death) are not part of God’s plan and are rather the result of our failure to obey God. They acknowledge the Bible as “the inspired word and sufficient guide for eternal life.” They also believe in “one supreme and infinite God, his Son, one Christ, and the Holy Ghost.” Worship services are simple and without ceremony. They consist largely of readings from Scripture and the textbook of Christian Science, silent prayer, hymn singing and the Lord’s Prayer.

    Christian Science has attracted its fair share of famous personalities, including Marilyn Monroe, Henry Fonda, Carol Channing, Robert Duvall, Jean Stapleton, Joan Crawford, Ginger Rogers and Doris Day. Apparently attracting the famous, however, is the only connection between Christian Science and the Church of Scientology.

    The fundamental concepts of the Church of Scientology were developed by Lafayette Hubbard (1911-1986), a world traveler and science-fiction writer. The organization of the Church of Scientology began in Los Angeles in 1954 and in Washington, D.C., in 1955.

    Despite acquiring the name “church,” Scientology is best described as a religious philosophy intended to improve a person’s life and allow them to achieve a kind of spiritual freedom. This process involves removal from one’s life of “engrams,” which are the scars of physically and psychologically disturbing events in this (and prior) lives. This ongoing process results in a state described as “clear.” Church members, called auditors, lead one through this process.

    Scientology preaches a belief in God but provides no real description of the nature or operation of the deity. Proponents of reincarnation, Scientologists reject traditional concepts of eternal life, heaven and hell. Official literature of the church indicates that one need not leave a particular religion to belong to the Church of Scientology.

    Scientology has had its share of controversy. In the 1960s, its offices were raided by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration in search of “meters” used in the auditing process which the government contended were illegal medical devices. In the 1970s, the Church of Scientology was branded by many as a cult that demanded huge donations from prospective members. By October 1993, however, the Internal Revenue Service had granted it full recognition as a tax-exempt religious entity.

    Father Charles Bober is pastor of St. Kilian in Mars.

    I was wrong again. Scientology and Christian Science not the same.

    Hubert

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Here is a comic style scientology history. http://www.antisectes.net/42xenub-eng.pdf I'm sure tom cruise would disaprove of it.

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  • Preston
    Preston

    Wikipedia posted a picture of what the Scientologists believe was the mode of transporation the aliens used to transplant all the humans from their world to Earth

    All I can say is....I feel sorry for the people in coach and its gonna F***kn' suck if they're showing Gigli for part of the trip...

    - Preston

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Files of some antiscientology court cases and whatnot. http://www.antisectes.net/indexH.htm

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  • Satanus
    Satanus

    http://www.xenutv.com/us/2020-1.htm here, you can download or watch an old 20-20 video in which l ron hubbard jr, who defected from the church, is interviewed. Downloading the whole thing first might work better than watching it from the site.

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