Dr. Picchioni .... In Texas (page 4)

Wild_Thing

LOL! You're welcome for the refresher course! Isn't it sad I remember that?!? I remember it making so much sense at the time and I guess it just sorta stuck!

Euphemism

There is the victim, who ironically is the one with the problem (or is the abuser).
The enabler, the one who stays in the situation and allows the victim to continue on with the abuse (or whatever).
The kids roles are typically either the scapegoat, the overachiever, the peacemaker (i think is what they called it), or the lost child.
Any of this sound familiar to anyone?

It does sound familiar to me, but not from Dr Picchioni... I think you'll find that breakdown in just about any book on codependency. I don't know who it's originally credited to.

I'm glad Dr P brought it to Witnesses, however. Too many Witnesses with mental illnesses seem to be looking for anti-depressants to cure everything, and not looking at actually making changes in their lives.

Wild_Thing

It does sound familiar to me, but not from Dr Picchioni... I think you'll find that breakdown in just about any book on codependency. I don't know who it's originally credited to.

Right! This is definitely not from Dr. Picchioni. He just relayed this model to his patients. I thought this was the model that Bradshaw came up with, but I could be wrong. I think it is nothing short of a miracle that witnesses were allowed to hear about it at all. After all, there is no such thing as a dysfunctional JW family, is there?

I'm glad Dr P brought it to Witnesses, however. Too many Witnesses with mental illnesses seem to be looking for anti-depressants to cure everything, and not looking at actually making changes in their lives.

I believe when this program was in existence, the society was just loosening up about obtaining mental health care. I see the opposite happening again now, where it is strongly discouraged, but oddly enough it is okay to medicate it! What is the message? It is okay to drug the problem, but not okay to deal with it!

Country Girl

Sounds like that whacked out JW doctor down in Houston: Dr. Riggle. He diagnosed everyone as paranoid schizophrenic, put them on Mellaril, read them Bible scriptures and had them buy fifty different jars of Bronson vitamins (cheap grocery store variety) at jacked up prices! When I had depression, my Mother took me down to see him, and of course, I was paranoid schizophrenic, I would have to live with my parents til the New System for God to heal me when I could then take care of myself, and I needed Mellaril and vitamins. I took the Mellaril and started hallucinating.. hehehhe. Wild dreams! Apparently, if you are *not* a schizophrenic, psychotropic drugs for schizophrenia can make you that way!

I wasn't even a Witness.. but my Mother (who is) was confident that he'd helped all the sisters in *her* congregation, so he could help me! I almost choked in laughter when he read me scriptures out of the Bible. <I've been out twenty years>. But I just had plain old accute depression, not hallucinations or dreams of grandeur, voices, or prophecies. Eeeek!

Two years later, I had to obtain my medical records from him, and he wouldn't give them to me! I was using them for a custody case, and I had to get my attorney to threaten him to give them to me. Riggle didn't want to be called to testify in Court in the custody hearing, I guess. So I drove down there, met with him, and picked up my records. I also told him that *all* of his predictions were wrong: I didn't live with my parents, I worked at a law firm as a legal assistant, had a new house, and a new car, and I wasn't paranoid schizophrenic, and I thought that he was a D.O., with no specialty in psychiatry, and shouldn't be diagnosing all those poor JW women with paranoid schizophrenia and keeping them doped up on Mellaril! There was about 10 in my Mom's congregation on that crap. Oh well... He was taken aback that I was so haughty to him.

Sorry to go off topic.. but it seems like the story you guys were telling about this Dr. Pinch-A-Boni, even though I am not sure if Dr. Riggle really ever helped anyone, just kept em doped up. He certainly didn't offer any other helpful suggestions except to attend meetings and wait on Jehovah.

CG

wednesday

lol at CG

CG, who is the medical doc her in Dallas that all the sisters go to? I saw him and his answer to everything is to "wait on Jehovah". he is a Do.. I dropped him like a hot potato and found a real doc.. also, there is an infection specialist doc in Addison, don't think he's a jw but he does have jws working for him b/c i saw a jw bible there. stopped seeing him too.

Wild_Thing

Sounds like that whacked out JW doctor down in Houston: Dr. Riggle. He diagnosed everyone as paranoid schizophrenic, put them on Mellaril, read them Bible scriptures and had them buy fifty different jars of Bronson vitamins (cheap grocery store variety) at jacked up prices!

Actually, I don't think Dr. P was that whacked. He was never a JW and he never prescribed pills, though I think he worked closely with psychiatrists who did. Anyway, he was just a psychologist who served more as a counselor, for good or bad, as you have heard already!

How sad they put you in the care of a JW whacko! I think it's kinda funny that everyone was diagnosed as schizophrenic, though! LOL! I have been in some congregations where I would not be surprised!

Seriously, I am glad you got out of that mess! A JW doctor practicing psychiatry is like ... well I don't what its like.... but its not right! LOL! Like a butcher performing heart surgery, maybe?

Valis

BTW, the Doctor is in, I have a speacial going on the Pinch & Grope Therapy Session...2 For 1 For Free...

Wild_Thing

LOL @ Valis! Come on! Tell us! What do you know about Dr. P?

Valis

Actually WT, I wished some of my family had even gone to a nutcase for help, but they did not. My mom's side of the family had it much worse than my dad's I guess. Mainly because my grandparents were never really hardcore dubs. More like the "go to assemblies, special talks, and the memorial/put the good teeth in" kind of dubs. BUT my mother's father was an elder in an Irving TX congregation. He was a wife beating, child beating molester. Has skipped from congo to congo over the years doing the same thing to other women and their children. He drove my uncle from being a classical cellist to joining the Navy and royally screwing him up. Dead. He married my aunt off to some jerk when she was 16. Severely obese along with her daughter. Many many problems with the congregation and the elders not helping her mental condition. She is also crazy as a loon, turning my mom's distant family against her. Psychotic. Then there was my cousin Jai her son, he took his own life in a standoff with the Irving SWAT team. My mom was practically saved when she met my dad and he took her away from all that. Sad really, but it may be that therapy could have helped none of them at all.

Sincerely,

District Overbeer

Wild_Thing

I'm sorry Valis! I think we might be related! My family is all crazy too! My dad was also very abusive and an elder. He got away with it for a long time. The elders did nothing. One of the times my mother spoke to an elder about it in ONE of the congregations we were in, he commended her for not bringing reproach upon Jehovah's name by making it public, since my dad was a leader! It still makes me mad! And Dr. P and all that therapy absolutely did not help anyone in my family, as they are still in the org and still crazy! But it got us out of a very bad situation, after he messed up his wife and three girls! That is more than anyone in the congo was willing to do, once our situation could no longer be hidden anymore.

Now my dad is still somewhere in Texas hiding from the witnesses, and I am safe and sound up here in the Midwest! There were some guys in chat the other night talking about practicing their Kung Fu. If they are still interested, I think I can hook you up! (And go for the throat! )

Dr. Picchioni .... In Texas

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