by yesidid 11 Replies latest jw friends

  • yesidid

    I am starting again. Could someone delete my first futile attempt. That is if this one works.

    Because your parents and I are probably of a similar vintage I just wanted to let you know what the ?clincher? was for me. I was devastated me when I realized that the WBTS was DELIBERATELY trying to deceive us. I was not aware that up until at least 1929 they had been teaching that Christ had returned in 1874. When I discovered that and put it together with the quote below I realized that it was a deliberate calculated effort to deceive. That?s when they lost me.

    The greatest Man who ever lived. 1991

    *** gt chap. 132 At God?s Right Hand ***

    A careful study of Bible prophecies, including Jesus? own prophecy regarding the last days, reveals that ?the Lord?s day? began in the history-making year 1914, yes, within this generation! So it was in 1914 that Jesus returned invisibly, without public fanfare and with only his faithful servants being aware of his return. In that year Jehovah gave Jesus the command to go subduing in the midst of his enemies.

    The latest example of this deception is in the Watchtower March 1 2004 page 14 paragraph 6

    ?After speaking of ?that evil slave,? Jesus gave two parables to show why some anointed Christians would prove to be faithful and discreet while others would not. To illustrate discretion, he said: The kingdom of the heavens will become like ten virgins that took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. Five of them were foolish, and five were discreet. For the foolish took their lamps but took no oil with them, whereas the discreet took oil in their receptacles with their lamps.? (Matthew 25:1-4). The ten virgins remind us of anointed Christians before 1914. They had calculated that the bridegroom, Jesus Christ, was about to make an appearance. Hence, they ?went out? to meet him, boldly preaching that ?the appointed times of the nations? would end in 1914. Luke 21:24.?

    MacHislopp started some brilliant threads exposing the WBTS> I am sure that if you could get some of the info to your parents it would help. I have included the links to his expose of the WBTS attempt to rewrite their ?1914? history.

    His title was interesting:

    1874 v. 1914 date change a masterpiece of forgery and deception!

  • Angharad

    If you are trying to copy a word document, copy it into Notepad first and then copy from notepad to the forum. There is a bug that causes word documents to cut off.

  • yesidid

    Thanks Angharad. At last it came good but I will note that for the future I always have that problem.

  • Brummie
    I was devastated me when I realized that the WBTS was DELIBERATELY

    Yep, the deliberate aspect was gutwrenching! Who would have thought it huh. The 1874 thing and the documentation was a biggie for me too.

    Great post yesidid


  • blondie

    yesidid, excellent point. I noticed that right away the first night I played around with the WT-CD. It made me check something else too.

    How many JWs (oldtimers mostly) remember how the WTS implies that holy spirit revealed to Knorr in 1942 that the League of Nations would be revived? Was it holy spirit or did he read the newspaper in January 1942.

    Origin of the United Nations

    The name "United Nations" was devised by United States President Franklin D. Roosevelt and was first used in the "Declaration by United Nations" of 1 January 1942, during the Second World War, when representatives of 26 nations pledged their Governments to continue fighting together against the Axis Powers.

    Extracted from: Basic Facts About the United Nations, Sales No. E.95.I.31.

    This quote from the Revelation Book got me to thinking and investigating. Was this advance information from God?

    January 1, 1942, UN Declaration

    re chap. 34 pp. 246-248 An Awesome Mystery Solved ***

    Having failed to keep peace in the world, the League of Nations virtually plunged into an abyss of inactivity. By 1942 it had become a has-been. Neither before this nor at some later date?but right at that critical time?did Jehovah interpret to his people the full depth of meaning of the vision!

    Proclaimers chap. 14 pp. 192-193 "They Are No Part of the World" ***

    Once again, following World War II, Christians were faced with a similar issue. This time, it involved the United Nations, successor to the League. While World War II was still under way, in 1942, Jehovah?s Witnesses had already discerned from the Bible, at Revelation 17:8, that the world peace organization would rise again, also that it would fail to bring lasting peace. This was explained by N. H. Knorr, then president of the Watch Tower Society, in the convention discourse "Peace?Can It Last?" Boldly Jehovah?s Witnesses proclaimed that view of the developing world situation.


    w89 4/15 p. 14 The Infamous Harlot?Her Destruction ***

    By divine providence, Jehovah?s Witnesses received enlightenment on that mystery in 1942. World War II was then raging at its height, and many thought it would escalate into Armageddon. But Jehovah had a different thought! There was still much work for his Witnesses to do! At their New World Theocratic Assembly of September 18-20, 1942, with the key city Cleveland, Ohio, tied in with 51 other locations in the United States, Nathan H. Knorr, president of the Watch Tower Society, gave the public talk, "Peace?Can It Last?" Therein he reviewed Revelation 17:8, which says of the "scarlet-colored wild beast" that it "was, but is not, and yet is about to ascend out of the abyss, and it is to go off into destruction." He showed how the League of Nations "was" from 1920 to 1939. Then the "is not" stage was reached because of the League?s demise. But after World War II, this combine of nations would ascend out of the abyss. Was that Bible-based forecast fulfilled? Truly it was! In 1945 the international "wild beast" emerged from its abyss of inactivity as the United Nations.
  • orangefatcat

    excellent research yesdid and blondie. I haven't got my WT CD Rom working yet as my son is working on my computer so I am using his for now. I love to do research also.

    Anyway yesterday I found this amazing site and want to share it with you. Its a very interesting site.

    if you have a chance I recommend it, its interesting reading.

    Love Orangefatcat

  • yesidid

    Thanks Brummie,

    Thanks Blondie, I hadn?t picked that one up. Is there no end to their sins?

    Thanks Orangefatcat. It sounds interesting I will check that site out.



  • stillajwexelder

    That is why the Borg are slaves to the WTBTS - It has just hit me - -The Truth Will Set you free -- so thje opposite must be true - that is THE WTBTS LIES WILL KEEP YOU IN BONDAGE TO THEM

  • yesidid

    The important thing is that this completely debunks the old standby:

    ?They are just imperfect men like the rest of us, we all make mistakes.?

    This continuing deception is no mistake. It is a deliberate ploy to mislead .

    It is premeditated duplicity and betrayal .


  • yesidid

    sorry double post

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