R. Kennedy was interested in boys !

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  • one
    one

    Rosemary Kennedy, became interested in boys, So what ! ?

    Unfortunately she died today or yesterday, can't find the newslink

    According to Dr. C. George Boeree She was born developmentally disabled. Her father reportedly had her lobotomised when she began showing a natural but embarrassing interest in boys

    http://www.ship.edu/~cgboeree/lobotomy.html

  • willyloman
    willyloman

    This is surely one of the most distasteful posts ever on JWD.

    No doubt the moderators will hasten to delete it.

  • minimus
    minimus

    What's so bad about this thread??

  • one
    one

    min,

    i dont know.. it was no specified.

    Just plain facts anyone can arrive to a conclusion according to her/his own state of mind...

  • minimus
    minimus

    Kennedy's situation was typical of this egocentric man named Joe kennedy. Sadly, this girl lived in the wrong time period.

  • one
    one

    probably at the time science was not fully developed to have someone "lobotomised"

    "The idea of brain surgery as a means of improving mental health got started around 1890, When Friederich Golz, a German researcher, removed portions of his dogs? temporal lobes, and found them to be calmer, less aggressive"

    THE LINK to the news about her deaht

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4157431.stm

    President Kennedy's sister dies

    Rosemary Kennedy, the older sister of the late US president John F Kennedy and the inspiration for the Special Olympics, has died aged 86.

    The third child of Rose and Joseph Kennedy, she was mentally retarded and was lobotomised when she was 23.

    She spent most of her life at an institution in Jefferson, Wisconsin, where she died surrounded by members of her family, including brother Edward.

    After her death on Friday, her family called her a "lifelong jewel".

    "Her mental retardation was a continuing inspiration to each of us and a powerful source of our family's commitment to do all we can to help all persons with disabilities live full and productive lives," it said.

    Inspiration

    Rosemary's condition inspired her younger sister Eunice Kennedy Shriver to become an advocate for recognition for the mentally retarded. She set up the Special Olympics in 1984 for mentally retarded athletes.

    She later looked after Rosemary after the family matriarch, Rose, suffered a stroke.

    She was born in 1918 in Boston. Brain damage at birth may have caused her mental retardation.

    Her father is believed to have approved her lobotomy, an operation to remove part of the brain, because of fears she might damage the politically ambitious family's reputation.

    "Rosemary was a woman, and there was a dread fear of pregnancy, disease and disgrace," author Laurence Leamer wrote in his book The Kennedy Women: The Saga of an American Family.

    Before her lobotomy at age 23, Rosemary kept diaries which recounted a privileged life of tea dances and trips to Europe and the White House.

    The diaries came to light in 1995, after being kept by her mother's secretary.

  • SheilaM
    SheilaM

    I had read somewhere she wasn't mentally retarded, she was very normal until the lobotomy. She just wouldn't listen to they tyrant and he had the lobotomy done to control her. I will look through my books and see if I can find the info

    Here is one article

    Lobotomy was once a treatment for mentally ill

    By Diane Sparacino
    Staff writer

    Lobotomy. An ugly word. An even uglier procedure.

    When the confines of a convent weren't enough to contain restive Rosemary Kennedy, the patriarch of that Massachusetts dynasty had his beautiful, soft-spoken but slow eldest daughter lobotomized to gain control.

    But the operation, performed in Washington, D.C., by a famed neurologist with strong ties to San Bernardino, went terribly awry. At about the age of 23, her ability to care for herself had been hacked away.

    This woman who had been presented at court to the king and queen of England remains today in a cottage built for her at a school for exceptional children in Wisconsin, an infant of 85 in the care of nuns.

    Joseph P. Kennedy Sr., father of President John F. Kennedy, didn't tell his wife, Rose, when he ordered the operation on their daughter.

    The sad tale of Rosemary Kennedy is well documented by author Laurence Leamer in "The Kennedy Men 1901-1963" and by Jack El-Hai, a Minnesota journalist, and others.

    In lobotomy, the surgeon slips an ice pick-shaped instrument behind the patient's eye and with a sweeping motion severs the frontal lobe, where emotion, personality and will are believed to reside, from the rest of the brain. It is then repeated behind the other eye.

    Once in vogue and widely practiced, including many times at Patton State Hospital in San Bernardino, it has fallen from favor and has been largely discredited.

    It was introduced at Patton in 1951 by the theatrical and flamboyant neurologist who developed the procedure, Dr. Walter J. Freeman Jr., the same man, who with his partner, James Watts, lobotomized Rosemary Kennedy.

    Infamous surgeon >>

    Rosemary Kennedy.

    1. Pick of the past 2. Infamous surgeon 3. A partnership is born 4. Ice-pick technique 5. A Kennedy link

  • SheilaM
    SheilaM

    Joe's oldest daughter, Rosemary, was considered shy and mentally limited - symptoms of what many suspect was dyslexia. For years the family had dealt with the problem by sending her away to various special schools and convents. By age twenty-one she had deteriorated greatly, giving way to tantrums, rages and violent behavior. Rosemary was beginning to understand that she would never measure up to her closest siblings, and the resulting frustration led to physical fights and, worse, long absences at night when she would be wandering the streets.

    1938 - Joe's wife Rose Kennedy ( left ) with his daughter Rosemary ( right ), who was lobotomized in 1942
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    - Increasingly, Rosemary was seen as a liability to the family's political ambitions, and in1942, Joe moved to deal with the problem. Without telling anyone, not ever her mother, he arranged for his oldest daughter to have a prefrontal lobotomy at St. Elizabeth's Hospital in Washington, D.C. The experimental operation was believed to work wonders with people who had emotional problems. In Rosemary's case it was a disaster and left her permanently disabled, paralyzed on one side, incontinent and unable to speak coherently. She was never allowed to return home, but instead was spirited away to St. Coletta's School in Wisconsin.

    -3-

    - Rosemary's fate and how it was handled was the ultimate Kennedy deception. As late as 1958 the family was maintaining the fiction that Rosemary had become a quasi nun in Wisconsin, content to renounce the glamorous world of her siblings to teach less fortunate children. Today the official family version is that she was born retarded, and that only her mother's herculean efforts had made it possible for her to appear normal.

  • TresHappy
    TresHappy

    There have been many stories about why Rose Marie (called Rosemary by the family) was lobotomized by her father. I did a report one time on the Kennedy's in junior high and the popular notion was that she had mood swings and her father was unable to control her. All Joe Kennedy cared was about was money and fame and the desire for his oldest to be in the White House. When Joe Jr. died the plane crash, JFK was left to fill those shoes. Joe Kennedy was the ambassador to England and he had become increasingly concerned about his daughter's actions. It was a horrible thing he did and didn't inform Rose. Obviously she would have tried to stop this procedure. My hope now is that Rosemary can finally rest in peace...

  • aniron
    aniron

    R. Kennedy was interested in boys !

    For a moment I thought it was going to be ROBERT KENNEDY!!

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