Foreign aid: Is the U.S. stingy?

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  • mkr32208
    mkr32208

    I cut and pasted this off msn I hope it works! My personal take is that we as individuals should do more and the goverments should do less! I think it's too easy to just say "I pay my taxes, let them worry about it!" I would be interested in seeing the numbers of not just how much each goverment gives per capita and total but how much do the citizens themselves give per cap and total... oh well I thought this was interesting and you guys might like to read it! This also goes along with my thoughts on another thread that no one cares about the people who are dieing unless they are dieing in some spectacular way...

    Foreign aid: Is the U.S. stingy?


    By The Christian Science Monitor

    With a carrier fleet on hand off Sumatra, the United States seems likely to play its usual role of being the biggest provider of relief in a major humanitarian disaster.

    American giving to help the victims of the Asian tsunamis, so sudden and captured so dramatically by television, is huge. Washington has pledged $350 million in aid. Moreover, President Bush enlisted two former presidents, Bill Clinton and his father, George H.W. Bush, to lead a nationwide campaign to raise private funds -- a move that squares with the president's preference for private economic activities.

    Yet the U.S. aid pledge had been surpassed as of Thursday not only by Japan ($500 million), but by Germany ($674 million) and Australia ($764 million) as well.

    Such efforts have pushed the question of American charity to the forefront. Is the United States stingy when it comes to foreign aid?

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    So should you.

    The answer depends on how you measure.

    Coming up short per capita
    It's a sensitive issue to the Bush administration, which is proud of its sizable oost in foreign aid with the creation of the Millennium Challenge Account for poor countries with good economic policies and the President's Emergency Plan for AIDS relief. Mr. Bush, one aid expert said, undoubtedly shares in the humanitarian concerns of the evangelical Christian community that supports him politically.

    In terms of traditional foreign aid, the United States gave $16.25 billion in 2003, as measured by the Organization of Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), the club of the world's rich industrial nations. That was almost double the aid by the next biggest net spender, Japan ($8.8 billion). Other big donors were France ($7.2 billion) and Germany ($6.8 billion).

    But critics point out that the United States is much bigger than those individual nations. As a group, member nations of the European Union have a bit larger population than the United States and give a great deal more money in foreign aid -- $49.2 billion altogether in 2003.

    In relation to affluence, the United States lies at the bottom of the list of rich donor nations. It gave 0.15% of gross national income to official development assistance in 2003. By this measure, Norway at 0.92% was the most generous, with Denmark next at 0.84%.

    Bring those numbers down to an everyday level and the average American gave 13 cents a day in government aid, according to David Roodman, a researcher at the Center for Global Development (CGD) in Washington. Throw in another nickel a day from private giving. That private giving is high by international standards, yet not enough to close the gap with Norway, whose citizens average $1.02 per day in government aid and 24 cents per day in private aid.

    There's aid, and then there's help
    But the administration sees that count as too restrictive. Andrew Natsios, head of the U.S .Agency for International Development, claimed on television last week that U.S. foreign aid was $24 billion in 2003, up from $10.6 billion when President Clinton took office. Some experts say that number, bigger than the OECD count, is a bit mysterious. It probably includes some debt forgiveness, such as $1 billion for the Congo. Last month, the United States forgave $4 billion in Iraqi debt, which may get counted in 2004 numbers for foreign aid.

    The purpose of much foreign aid is to reduce poverty and encourage progress in developing nations. Toward that end, Roodman's CGD has attempted to capture other policies to construct a Commitment to Development Index for 21 rich nations. Here the United States comes in much better, at No. 7. The index considers trade policy, foreign investment, immigration, environmental policy, technology, and security (some military assistance), as well as official and private aid in ranking the generosity of nations.

    The United States, for instance, has relatively open borders to exports from poor countries. Its agriculture is less protected than that of Europe or Japan. It lets in 1 million or so immigrants a year, mostly from Mexico and other poor nations. They remit tens of billions home.

    Moreover, the United States has a huge defense budget, some of which benefits developing countries. Making a judgment call, the CGD includes the cost of UN peacekeeping activities and other military assistance approved by a multilateral institution, such as NATO. So the United States gets credit for its spending in Kosovo, Australia for its intervention in East Timor, and Britain for military money spent to bring more stability to Sierra Leone.

    Then there's the question of balance.

    Some aid experts worry that American giving to alleviate the tsunami disaster will prove out of proportion compared with other needs around the world.

    For example, some 240,000 people a month (1,776 in rich countries) die of HIV/AIDS, another 136,000 a month from diarrhea in developing countries, notes Roodman. Famine kills far more people than the 150,000 plus who died in the tsunamis.

    The United States often helps battle these more endemic challenges too. But politics can intrude. Motives are sometimes mixed. Assistance to famine in Ethiopia or elsewhere can be a big boost to American farmers.

    "Not to belittle what we are doing, we shouldn't get too self-congratulatory," says Frederick Barton, an economist at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington.

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  • freddi
    freddi

    not for nothin', but why is it that when there is a crisis that the u.s. must be the ones to offer so much help when we have people in "our own country" that are homeless and starving?it is about time that other countries have stepped up to the plate and helped others like we have always done for many, many yrs. we are told that there are not enough jobs for people. folks can't even get a decent raise, bonus etc. taxes are raised because we are told that the country is hurting finanacially. who helped us during 9/11? tell me who! mind you, i do feel for the people in the latest disaster in asia and i have even contributed money, food and clothing but our people are hurting and we are told that there is not enough for us to help our own? something stinks! we are not the international police. we need to first concentrate on helping our own black, white, red, brown whatever. we have building after building that are left standing after a fire. instead we can clean these places up and open them up to the homeless but no, we don't have the money to do that. our children in urban areas can't even get acess to computers or even library books because there is no funding. why? because we can't afford it! people are dying because our govt. can't afford to give universal health care. why? cause we can't afford it?

    but we have the money and are obligated to give it to others just to show that we are all that? show our own people that we are all that. take care of our own backyard. when you can take care of your own then you can go out there like big brother and reign supreme because you have taken care of your own. how can you be somebody else's baby's daddy when you can't take care of your own?

    freddi

  • ColdRedRain
    ColdRedRain

    I just have one thing to say. Where are the French troops in this? Where are the German aid workers? Where is Vladimir Putin's money?

    And they have the nerve to call us stingy? Proof once again why Europe can go to hell.

  • roybatty
    roybatty
    My personal take is that we as individuals should do more and the goverments should do less

    It's been reported that 45% of Americans have contributed to some type of disaster relief fund. That number blew me away.

  • Eyebrow2
    Eyebrow2

    The US isn't stingy I think. With the recent crisis of the Tsunami, I think the problem is that George Bush just didn't react quick enough. I was glad to hear that he sent his brother over. Now Jeb, that man has some SERIOUS experience dealing with natural disasters. W needs better people to help guide him in these areas. When first heard about it, it was only about 5,000 people...then the next day it was about to 25,000 etc.. etc.. etc....now it is what, 200,000 possibly? He should have started making calls from his ranch, but when he first got the call, they probably didn't realize how serious it really was.

    It isn't a case of being stingy, it is just a case of having someone smack bush in the head every now and then to make him understand that he has to be a bit smoother with this type of thing. Thats what advisors are for.

  • avishai
    avishai

    We ALL stink. The US, the UN, etc. The tsunami is'nt preventable. What's happening in the Sudan, what happened in Rwanda, Cambodia, etc. was/is preventable or stoppable. And those deaths were in the millions.

    This kind of mass death happens all the time. We just usually ignore it.

  • ColdRedRain
    ColdRedRain
    The US isn't stingy I think. With the recent crisis of the Tsunami, I think the problem is that George Bush just didn't react quick enough. I was glad to hear that he sent his brother over

    Quick enough? You know how technologically advanced the ruals are? Alot less than Washington, DC. Bush was in the ruals, and information isn't that quick. Case in point, in communities in that region (This is just second hand information.) cell phones are useless. You still have to use those old analog bag phones if you want any sort of mobile access. Don't bother about cable internet access either, or for that matter, dialup.

  • dh
    dh
    We ALL stink. The US, the UN, etc. The tsunami is'nt preventable. What's happening in the Sudan, what happened in Rwanda, Cambodia, etc. was/is preventable or stoppable. And those deaths were in the millions.

    This kind of mass death happens all the time. We just usually ignore it.

    Well said avashi, I agree completely.

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    I assume since it was mainly muslims tha twere killed in the disaster that Osama Bin Laden is contributing- America is damned if it does and amned if it odes not - the US is generous - how about seeing loads of aid from Muslim countries where charity is one of the pillars of Islam

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