JWs and charitable work

by kj 28 Replies latest jw friends

  • kj
    kj

    I've read on here several times about how JWs are discouraged for doing charitable work for anybody other than JWs, and that they are discouraged from contributing financially to non-JW charities. Are there some references to this in their literature that someone could point me to?

    Also, I had a discussion with a JW about a recent relief effort some JWs did in Florida. They said that some JWs went to Florida after the hurricanes hit, and they went to help fellow witnesses repair their damaged homes AND that the society paid for the materials. They said that the brothers did the labor for free, and the society paid for the materials, and in return, when the homeowner's insurance came through, the money is supposed to go back to the society. Now, here is my question- since the labor was done for free, doesn't the society stand to make a profit if all of the insurance money is paid to them? I'm not sure how that works, but wouldn't an insurance payment cover labor and materials? Can someone please let me know if I'm understanding this correctly?

    By the way, Merry Christmas to all of you!

    kj

  • candidlynuts
    candidlynuts

    if it was true charity they wouldnt ask for the insurance money . i wonder if thats the standard operating procedures for other religious charitable work?

  • blondie
    blondie

    kj, your account only verifies what a brother told me about the repairs that were done in Texas to the JWs homes that the JWs were strongly encouraged to sign over the insurance check to the WTS.

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    For if YOU love those loving YOU, what reward do YOU have? Are not also the tax collectors doing the same thing? 47 And if YOU greet YOUR brothers only, what extraordinary thing are YOU doing? Are not also the people of the nations doing the same thing? MATTHEW 5:45-47

  • Gordy
    Gordy

    True charity would be if they did the same work for non-JW's, with out asking for anything in return.

  • kj
    kj

    bttt

    does anyone else know something about this? I really am curious as to whether the WT makes a profit by doing this. Thanks.

    kj

  • FairMind
    FairMind

    I'll be damned! This was one of the "good" things i thought the Society did. Knowing that they are making a profit from free labor and people's miserie reaslly hits home.

    FM

  • Mary
    Mary

    Here's a few quotes on the Society's view of charity.......it's enough to make you hurl your cookies, that's for sure. While not out and out forbidding it, it certainly makes no bones about how knocking on people's doors telling them how they're going to die if they don't convert, is a MUCH better "charity to be involved in:

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    w50 12/15 p. 506 Religious Charity versus Good Works ***

    The important thing, the Word of God says, is to be rich in good works. But can one wealthy in material possessions also be rich in good works? This question was in the mind of the rich young ruler in Jesus? day who asked the Master what he must do in order to gain eternal life. You can read the account in Matthew 19:16-24.

    Jesus did not speak evasively, but plainly for the young man?s own good. From all outward appearance this fellow was a respectable, law-abiding individual. There is nothing to indicate that he oppressed or robbed the poor. Apparently he had come by his money and holdings in a lawful manner. But the question was, What was he going to do with what he had? How was he to use his wealth? Said Jesus: ?If you give to the poor you will have treasure in heaven, provided you come and follow me.?

    Thus it becomes clear that donating to charitable causes as a philanthropist is of no value in God?s sight unless one goes farther and becomes a true footstep follower of Jesus. It also appears that the possession of wealth is in itself of no particular harm. The question is, How is that wealth used? If you are rich in this world?s goods will you do what Jesus said? Are you willing to give up your material wealth and follow the course Jesus did, work in the interests of the poor and with the Kingdom message comfort those who mourn? Or will you hang tightly on to what you have and turn aside grieved and peeved at what the Lord has said, as the young man did nineteen centuries ago? To do that is selfishness, greediness, covetousness. (1 Tim. 6:10) Yes, the right thing is the hard thing to do, and Jesus knew it: "Truly I say to you that it will be a difficult thing for a rich man to get into the kingdom of the heavens. Again I say to you, It is easier for a camel to get through a needle?s eye than for a rich man to get into the kingdom of God."?Matt. 19:23, 24, NW.

    THE

    GOOD DEEDS OF JESUS AND APOSTLES

    A blind beggar, sitting beside the road, cried out as Jesus passed by, "Have mercy on me." Now, what did Jesus do, reach down and give the poor fellow a couple of Roman coins for a crust of bread? No, not at all. He gave him a far more valuable gift in restoring his eyesight! (Mark 10:46-52; Matt. 20:30-34; Luke 18:35-43) Jesus? "charity" was not measured out in money to religious organizations for questionable distribution. Jesus? loving-kindness, tender mercy and bountiful gifts consisted of restoring the sight to the blind, making the lame to walk, curing the horrible disease of leprosy, opening deafened ears, and even raising up the dead. To the poor and downtrodden he untiringly preached the good news about God?s kingdom.?Matt. 11:5; Luke 7:22; 4:18.

    GOOD

    WORKS, NOT ADVERTISED CHARITY

    The gaudy practice today of bestowing honor and praise on heavy contributors to charity drives is directly opposed to Jesus? counsel. "But take care not to do your good deeds in public for people to see, for, if you do, you will get no reward from your Father in heaven. So when you are going to give to charity, do not blow a trumpet before yourself, as the hypocrites do, in the synagogues and the streets, to make people praise them. I tell you, that is all the reward they will get! But when you give to charity, your own left hand must not know what your right hand is doing, so that your charity may be secret, and your Father who sees what is secret will reward you."?Matt. 6:1-4, AT.

    It is no secret, many so-called "charity" organizations operate a fraud and racket. For example, the New York Times, September 6, 1950, carried an account of how certain "religious charitable organizations" operating in Brooklyn, New York, are giving the poor only 15 per cent of the money they beg from the public. The other 85 per cent goes for what they call "overhead" expense. God?s faithful people cannot afford to donate to such organizations. They must use what they have to preach this gospel of the established Kingdom for the benefit of the poor everywhere, as commanded.?Matt. 24:14.

    It takes much time, energy and money to carry out this divine command, but Jehovah?s witnesses are happy to use their substance to do it. Investing their money in Bibles and other life-giving literature, they take these to the people at great personal expense. But this is really a sound investment on behalf of the poor, for by so doing Jehovah?s witnesses are storing up treasures in heaven and helping others to do the same thing

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    g76 12/8 pp. 27-28 Christian Giving?How? ***

    What

    Is the Bible?s View?

    Christian

    Giving?How?

    WHEN was the last time someone asked you to "give"? In many areas people are continually hounded by requests for money or other types of gifts for various charitable causes. Prospective donors often receive literature advertising drawings for prizes or perhaps depicting horribly deformed or emaciated children. How should you respond when someone asks you to give?

    The Scriptures encourage generosity. Under divine inspiration Moses counseled his fellow Israelites: "You must not harden your heart or be close-fisted toward your poor brother. For you should generously open your hand to him."?Deut. 15:7, 8.

    The Bible provides many fine examples of the spirit of giving. One of these was in connection with an unfortunate situation that arose during the first century C.E. When Christians in Judea became materially impoverished, fellow worshipers willingly came to their aid. (Rom. 15:26; 1 Cor. 16:1, 2) In this regard, Christians at Macedonia came in for special mention. "From the depths of their poverty," writes the apostle Paul, "they have shown themselves lavishly open-handed. Going to the limit of their resources, as I can testify, and even beyond that limit, they begged us most insistently, and on their own initiative, to be allowed to share in this generous service to their fellow-Christians."?2 Cor. 8:2-4, The New English Bible.But never should a person feel compelled to give. Concerning the above-mentioned relief work for needy fellow Christians, the apostle Paul writes: "Let each one do just as he has resolved in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver."?2 Cor. 9:7.

    What about charitable organizations that solicit money? Does this type of giving identify one as meeting the Scriptural obligation to be generous? Not necessarily, since donations to any cause may stem from wrong motives. In such cases even large-scale giving is worthless in God?s eyes. The apostle Paul writes: "if I give all my belongings to feed others, and if I hand over my body, that I may boast, but do not have love, I am not profited at all."?1 Cor. 13:3.

    Some organizations actually encourage wrong motives by publicizing the names of their donors. Jesus counseled against seeking such publicity, saying: "When you do some act of charity, do not announce it with a flourish of trumpets, as the hypocrites do in synagogue and in the streets to win admiration from men. I tell you this: they have their reward already. No; when you do some act of charity do not let your left hand know what your right is doing; your good deed must be secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you."?Matt. 6:1-3, NE.Another thing to consider is that not all who seek a handout are worthy of your hard-earned money or other valuable things. For instance, the Scriptures state: "Because of winter the lazy one will not plow; he will be begging in reaping time, but there will be nothing." (Prov. 20:4) Poverty and hunger are the expected thing for such lazy ones. "If anyone does not want to work," says the Word of God, "neither let him eat."?2 Thess. 3:10.

    As for charitable organizations, many have proved to be frauds; and even legitimate ones frequently send but a tiny amount of the money they collect to advertised worthy causes. "According to the State Board of Social Welfare," writes Francis Cerral in the New York Times, "charities raise about $22 billion a year in the United States and $2 billion in New York. But in some cases, no money or as little as 5 or 10 percent of it ends up going to the charitable purpose, with the rest being pocketed by the fund-raisers." Back in 1974 one church-sponsored charity collected $3.3 million. Astonishingly, only $54,000 reached the advertised charity. An indication of what happened to the rest is seen in the fact that $45,000 went to one of the church?s clergymen, and $110,000 to three of his assistants.

    It is important to realize, too, that, according to the Bible, charitable organizations can never eliminate or appreciably reduce all poverty and other things that afflict mankind. Because of inherited sin and invisible rule by Satan and his demons, the present system of things has always been marred by such woes. (Rom. 5:12; Eph. 6:12; Rev. 12:9) Jesus therefore declared: "You always have the poor with you." (Matt. 26:11) These things will disappear only when God?s kingdom sweeps away this system and extends a new system of divine rule earth wide.?Dan. 2:34, 35, 44.

    Does this mean that it is altogether wrong for Christians to give to charitable organizations? No. Certain charities do accomplish a measure of good. So, it is a matter of personal choice as to whether a person donates to such a cause.

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    w57 11/1 p. 647 Doing Right Christian Works ***

    RIGHT

    CHRISTIAN WORKS

    However, as good as all such works are, they are at best only secondary. Even with Jesus the really important work was preaching that "the kingdom of the heavens has drawn near." That was the primary reason for his coming to earth, as he told Pilate: "For this purpose I have been born and for this purpose I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to the truth."?Matt. 4:17; John 18:37.

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    Summary of the following articles:

    • Prominent charities misappropriate funds
    • Some people have reservations about giving to charities
    • We must be cautious about giving money to charities
    • If you receive any help from the Watchtower Society, it would be a good idea to send your insurance money to the organization.
    • The best way to give is to sell more Watchtower publications.

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    Watchtower 2003 6/1 pp. 3-4 What Is Happening to Charity? ***

    What

    Is Happening to Charity?

    AFTER the attacks of September 11, 2001, in New York City and Washington, D.C., public support for the victims of the tragedy was remarkable. Charities were overwhelmed by $2.7 billion in donations to help care for the victims? families. Shocked by the extent of the devastation, people everywhere wanted to help.

    The mood of some of the public quickly soured, however, when allegations surfaced that prominent charities were misappropriating funds. There was a flood of outrage at the report that one large charity planned to hold back nearly half of the $546 million it received and use it for other purposes. Although the organization later reversed its decision and apologized, one reporter observed: "Critics see this new turn of events as a day late and a dollar short to restore the trust" enjoyed before the attacks. How about you? Has your trust in charity been shaken lately?

    Useful

    or Wasteful?

    Giving to charity is generally considered to be a virtue. Yet, not everyone sees it that way. Over 200 years ago, Samuel Johnson, the English essayist, wrote: "You are much surer that you are doing good when you pay money to those who work, as the recompense of their labour, than when you give money merely in charity." Some today have similar reservations, and reports of charitable organizations that are mishandling or mismanaging donations do little to bolster public confidence. Consider two recent examples.

    A director of a religious charity in San Francisco was dismissed after allegedly billing his agency for his cosmetic surgery and for his $500-per-week restaurant bills over a period of two years. In Britain, organizers of a major television charity event were embarrassed when it was discovered that out of 6.5 million pounds (about $10 million, U.S.) sent in to help build new orphanages in Romania, only 12 substandard houses were ever built, and hundreds of thousands of dollars went unaccounted for. Negative reports like these have rightly caused some donors to become more cautious about how much they contribute and to whom.

    To

    Give or Not to Give

    It would be a shame, however, to allow the actions of a few individuals or organizations to squelch our genuine concern and compassion for others. The Bible says: "The form of worship that is clean and undefiled from the standpoint of our God and Father is this: to look after orphans and widows in their tribulation." (James 1:27) Yes, active concern for the poor and disadvantaged is an integral part of Christianity.

    Still, you might wonder, ?Should I continue to give to charity, or should I simply try to help by personal gifts to individuals?? What kind of giving does God expect? The following article will discuss these questions.

    *** Watchtower 2003 6/1 pp. 4-7 Giving That Pleases God ***

    Giving That Pleases God

    JESUS and his disciples were enjoying a good meal in Bethany with a number of close friends, including Mary, Martha, and the recently resurrected Lazarus. When Mary took a pound of expensive oil and greased the feet of Jesus, Judas Iscariot became indignant and spoke up. "Why was it this perfumed oil was not sold for three hundred denarii [equivalent to about a year?s wage] and given to the poor?" he protested. Others quickly brought up similar complaints.?John 12:1-6; Mark 14:3-5.

    However, Jesus answered: "Let her alone. . . . For you always have the poor with you, and whenever you want to you can always do them good, but me you do not have always." (Mark 14:6-9) The Jewish religious leaders taught that almsgiving not only was virtuous but could even atone for sins. Jesus, on the other hand, made it clear that giving that pleases God is not limited to making charitable gifts to the poor.

    A brief look at the way giving was done in the early Christian congregation will highlight some practical ways in which we can show our concern and thus please God with our giving. It will also identify a unique kind of giving that does the most good.

    "Give Gifts of Mercy"

    On several occasions Jesus encouraged his disciples to "give gifts of mercy," or as other translations render the phrase, to "give in charity" or "give to charity." (Luke 12:33; New English Bible; A Translation in the Language of the People, by Charles B. Williams) Jesus cautioned, however, against showy displays that were intended merely to glorify the giver rather than God. "When you go making gifts of mercy," he said, "do not blow a trumpet ahead of you, just as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be glorified by men." (Matthew 6:1-4) Applying this admonition, early Christians avoided the showy spectacles of the pious religious elite in their day and chose to help those in need by rendering personal services or making private gifts.

    At Luke 8:1-3, for example, we are told that Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Susanna, and others used "their belongings" in quietly ministering to Jesus and his apostles. Although these men were not destitute, they had abandoned their means of livelihood to focus their efforts exclusively on the ministry. (Matthew 4:18-22; Luke 5:27, 28) By helping them to complete their God-given assignment, these women, in effect, glorified God. And God showed his appreciation by preserving a record of their merciful generosity in the Bible for all future generations to read.?Proverbs 19:17; Hebrews 6:10.

    Dorcas was another kind woman who "abounded in good deeds and gifts of mercy." She made clothes for needy widows in her seaside town of Joppa. Whether she paid for all the materials herself or simply donated her labor, we do not know. Nonetheless, her good work endeared her to those she could help, as well as to God, who mercifully blessed her goodwill.?Acts 9:36-41.

    The Right Motive Is Vital

    What motivated these individuals to give? It was more than a compassionate impulse triggered by an emotional appeal for help. They felt a personal moral responsibility to do what they could each day to help those experiencing poverty, adversity, illness, or other difficulties. (Proverbs 3:27, 28; James 2:15, 16) This is the kind of giving that pleases God. It is primarily motivated by a deep love for God and a desire to imitate his merciful and generous personality.?Matthew 5:44, 45; James 1:17.

    The apostle John highlighted this vital aspect of giving when he asked: "Whoever has this world?s means for supporting life and beholds his brother having need and yet shuts the door of his tender compassions upon him, in what way does the love of God remain in him?" (1 John 3:17) The answer is obvious. The love of God moves people to be charitable. God appreciates and rewards those who, like him, show a generous spirit. (Proverbs 22:9; 2 Corinthians 9:6-11) Do we see this kind of generosity today? Consider what recently happened in a congregation of Jehovah?s Witnesses.

    An elderly Christian woman?s home was in serious need of repair. She was living alone and had no family to help her. Through the years, her home had always been open to hold Christian meetings, and often she would share a meal with anyone who would accept her invitation. (Acts 16:14, 15, 40) Seeing her plight, members of the congregation rallied to help. Some contributed funds, others their labor. Over a few weekends, volunteers put on a new roof, installed a new bathroom, plastered and painted the whole first floor, and installed new cabinets in the kitchen. Their giving not only met the woman?s need but also drew the congregation closer together and impressed the neighbors as an example of true Christian giving.

    There are so many ways we can personally assist others. Can we spend time with a fatherless boy or girl? Can we do some shopping or sewing for an elderly widow we know? Can we cook a meal or help cover an expense for someone of limited means? We do not have to be wealthy to help out. The apostle Paul wrote: "If the readiness is there first, it is especially acceptable according to what a person has, not according to what a person does not have." (2 Corinthians 8:12) Is such personal, direct giving, though, the only kind of giving that God will bless? No.

    What About Organized Relief?

    Sometimes personal efforts are not enough. In fact, Jesus and his apostles kept a common fund for the poor, and they accepted contributions from caring people they met in their work. (John 12:6; 13:29) Likewise, first-century congregations took up collections when the need arose and organized relief on a larger scale.?Acts 2:44, 45; 6:1-3; 1 Timothy 5:9, 10.

    One such occasion arose about 55 C.E. The congregations in Judea had fallen into poverty, perhaps as a result of the great famine that had recently taken place. (Acts 11:27-30) The apostle Paul, always concerned about the poor, enlisted the help of congregations as far away as Macedonia. He personally organized a collection and used approved men to deliver it. (1 Corinthians 16:1-4; Galatians 2:10) Neither he nor any of the others involved took payment for their service.?2 Corinthians 8:20, 21.

    Jehovah?s Witnesses today are also quick to help when disaster strikes. During the summer of 2001, for instance, torrential storms caused major flooding in Houston, Texas, U.S.A. In all, 723 homes of Witnesses were damaged to some extent, many of them quite badly. A disaster relief committee made up of qualified Christian elders was immediately formed to assess individual needs and to allocate relief funds to help the local Witnesses to cope with the situation and repair their homes. Willing volunteers from neighboring congregations performed all the work. One Witness was so appreciative of the help that when she received payment from her insurance company to cover the repairs to her house, she immediately donated the money to the relief fund so that it could help others in need.

    When it comes to organized charity, though, we need to be cautious as we evaluate the many appeals we receive. Some charities have high administrative or fund-raising costs, leaving only a small portion of the collected money for the intended purpose. Proverbs 14:15 says: "Anyone inexperienced puts faith in every word, but the shrewd one considers his steps." So it is the course of wisdom to examine the facts carefully.

    Giving That Does the Most Good

    There is a kind of giving that is even more important than charity. Jesus alluded to this when a rich young ruler asked what he had to do to get everlasting life. Jesus told him: "Go sell your belongings and give to the poor and you will have treasure in heaven, and come be my follower." (Matthew 19:16-22) Notice that Jesus did not just say, ?Give to the poor and you will get life.? Instead, he added, "Come be my follower." In other words, as commendable and beneficial as charitable acts are, Christian discipleship involves more.

    Jesus? chief interest was in helping others spiritually. Shortly before his death, he told Pilate: "For this I have been born, and for this I have come into the world, that I should bear witness to the truth." (John 18:37) While he took the lead in helping the poor, healing the sick, and feeding the hungry, Jesus primarily trained his disciples to preach. (Matthew 10:7, 8) In fact, among his final instructions to them was the command: "Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations."?Matthew 28:19, 20.

    Of course, preaching will not solve all the world?s problems. Yet, sharing the good news of God?s Kingdom with all sorts of people glorifies God because preaching accomplishes God?s will and opens the way to everlasting benefits for those who accept the divine message. (John 17:3; 1 Timothy 2:3, 4) Why not listen to what Jehovah?s Witnesses have to say the next time they call? They come with a spiritual gift. And they know that this is the best way that they can give to you.

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    There are many ways to show that we care

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    Our preaching the good news pleases God and opens the way to everlasting benefits

  • roybatty
    roybatty

    About 11 or 12 years ago a tornado hit a town up here in Illinois. I believe the effort to help the JW's effected was organized on a circuit level. Anyway, I remember going with a group of local "brothers" to the area that was hit. We were allowed through the police lines because we were labeled as "relief workers." We went to several JW homes and helped them best we could. Once we finished helping only the JWs, the elder in charge said that it was time to go. I asked about helping the other people in the area and got a lecture....again.

  • toladest
    toladest

    On the insurance end of it, there would have to be reciepts/bills for the labor in order for the insurance to pay for the labor. The insurance company does not just hand you the value of the house OR how much you have it insured for. They pay you what it costs to rebuild up to your policy limits. They will however, in many cases pay you to do the labor yourself. But it is a complicated process. IF the WTS billed the homeowner for the labor than it is NOT volunteer work. It would be interesting to know how they worked this one. Also, if they are asking for building materials to be repayed, it surely does not seem charitable to me. They could just as easily have a contractor do the same thing. The exception would be the uninsured homeowners. Do they expect the materials and labor to be paid back on one of their special "low intrest" loan programs that they have for Kingdom Halls?

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