Resurrection Shuffle.

by Englishman 11 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Englishman

    Back in the late 60's and early 70's, the Brooklyn Boyos surprised everyone with some new light on the resurrection.

    Basically, almost everyone who was dead would be resurrected after armageddon. Non-dubbies, bad people, prophets, goodie-goodies, they're all for a resurrecting! They would have a second chance at gaining redemption before having to pass some sort of special test somewhere down the line in the new order. The folk who died at armageddon wouldn't get a second chance. For them it was to be finito, sorry, you're dead, too bad, ha ha.

    So you die before armageddon you get resurrected, you die at armageddon, you've blown it. Hmm.

    Now, a lot of ex's and disfellowshipped one's began to get a tad edgy at all of this new light. Just imagine. Mummy and Daddy are distrought at the departing of the Apple Of Their Eye to Satan's wicked ole world. Now if said Apple was dead before armageddon comes along, then a resurrection, a second chance, is in the offing, right? But, if he's actually alive when armageddon arrives, then he's dead, right?

    It might sound ludicrous now, but there was a time when some ex's that I knew were very wary of being left alone with a believing relative who just might figure out how to get a fella into the New World.

    One way or another.


  • kwintestal
    It might sound ludicrous now, but there was a time when some ex's that I knew were very wary of being left alone with a believing relative who just might figure out how to get a fella into the New World.

    Can you repent of something that you did which you thought about, planned and executed for a specific purpose?

    Reminds me of kids I know that would pray to have family members die before armageddon, and then feel guilty when they did. What a screwed up mentality, all ways around.


  • Will Power
    Will Power

    Englishman - this is a serious subject especially when you read about entire families being victims of murder and the newspaper reports that they were JWs.

    Even weirder are the ones that could possibly be witnesses to testify against a JW on say...a molesting charge. What if it came out during a trial that say the mother repeatedly went to the elders and maybe higher and nothing was done to protect her children? Loyalty to the org is more important than the truth. Should someone in a position to potentially shed some bad light be silenced to protect the mother org? Could an emotionally intense judicial hearing put someone who might be already vulnerable mentally - on a collision course with guilt and twisted doctrine?

    what can be done after emotional blackmail, etc fail

  • simplesally

    I remember believing that............feeling bad my grandmother died but believing she now had a chance to learn the 'truth'........

  • seeitallclearlynow

    I knew it was a strange way to view things, but I never worried about who would or would not be in the New System. I just fully trusted that whoever was SUPPOSED to be there, would be, and whoever was deemed unworthy by God, would not be, and that was that.

  • heart2heart

    So all you have to do to ensure your everlasting life is die before the big A... even those "goats" that JW's witnessed to who refused the "truth" and were therefore deemed "unworthy" would get resurrected simply because they died before Armageddon? I wonder how a dub would explain that one!


  • JH

    Don't the Witnesses still believe that today?

  • Blueblades

    YES! 2002 Worship the Only True God Book, page 188, even the dead will be resurrected after Armageddon.

  • Surreptitious

    Thank god Elvis died.

  • Double Edge
    Double Edge

    According to Paul in Acts, ALL people will be resurrected. There is no distinction regarding pre or post Armageddon:

    Acts 24 14-16

    14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the Way which they call a sect, so serve I the God of our fathers, believing all things which are according to the law, and which are written in the prophets;
    15 having hope toward God, which these also themselves look for, that there shall be a resurrection both of the just and unjust.

    So much for their doctrine being "bible based".

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