Charles T Russell -a freemason and the connection to the illuminati...

by dolphman 169 Replies latest jw friends

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  dolphman

  OK, I'm not one for conspiracy theories but lately I've uncovered some interesting facts that I think warrant some attention.

  First of all, Russell was a freemason. All the early watchtower and books he authored have freemason symbology and art throughout them.

  Not a big deal I thought, until I read more about freemasons and the so-called "Illuminati", a group of 13 families that supposedly control the world.

  Supposedly these 13 families, such as the DuPonts, Mcdonalds, Kennedys,
  Onassis, Rockefellers, Rothschilds, the Li family of China, etc, all
  have their fingers in investment banking, politics, sciences, etc. Their
  goal is to basically control everyone else through manipulating society
  to at some point accept one world government (New World Order, UN),
  which they'll control with their already great degree of influence.
  
  Now of course this seems far-fetched, but keep listening. Every member
  of these families is involved with the freemasons, ever heard of them? I
  think well over 37 of our ex-presidents have been freemasons. Most
  members of banking and commerce are members too. Now, the crazy thing is
  freemasons technically only started in 1700'something, when a group got
  together of the above families and began fermenting a plot to overthrow
  the british and french empires. However, most of Freemason architecture
  and ritual is based on Egyptology. Some think the same group of people
  who ruled Egypt have for centures inter-bred with other important
  families around the world to keep a monopoloy on power and economics,
  and the freemason culture is how the keep networking and keep their
  bloodlines pure. Why? Supposedly, they use types of magic in freemason
  ceremonies to keep themselves strong, and pure bloodlines make the magic
  more powerful. I know that sounds dumb, and you can ignore that part for
  now if you find it unbelievable, but keep reading. (I was in a freemason
  church once, sneaking around as part of a janitorial crew. I saw them
  doing a ritual, which was extremely weird.)
  
  But get this: Bush, Churchhill, and Rooselvelt all descend from Kind
  Edward of England (Longshanks, the guy who killed Braveheart). Bush and
  Kerry are actually related. Count Dracula is actually a great
  grandfather of Prince Wilhelm of England. Clinton and other presidents
  are decendents from Charlamagne. This is no bullshit. I researched it on
  ancestry.com. It seems like all the royal bloodlines do remain pretty
  close-nit.
  
  Kerry and Bush are also members of the skull and bones society, an
  offshoot of the freemasons. Chances are neither Bush nor Kerry are very
  advanced members of the skull and bones or freemasons. The highest level is of a 33rd
  degree freemason. I doubt either one are up to that level. Yet, they
  still maybe pawns of those higher up, really pulling the strings on
  their careers.
  
  Here's the big kicker for me. Normally I wouldn't think twice about any
  of this shit, and just think it was a bunch of crap. But I was doing
  some harmless research on Jehovahs' Witnesses just to reminice about the
  old days when I stumbled upon the fact that the founder of JWs, Charles
  T. Russell, was an ex-freemason. The Russells are also one of the 13
  familys listed as members of the illuminati. All the early watchtowers
  and JW books have freemason symbology on the cover. Now, no big deal at
  first, right? Wrong. When you combine the goal of freemasonry, or the
  illuminati, with the doctrines of Jehovah's Witnesses, you have a
  perfect marriage of the two. Basically, the whole goal of JWs is to see
  an end to organized religion and goverments. Exactly what the Illuminati
  want! So, why not get a group of people brainwashed ahead of time to be
  prepared for it. Joseph Smith, the mormon leader, was also a freemason.
  Mormons and JWs only differ on certain doctrines, but not the philosophy
  in general.

  Is there anything to this? Please, this is a serious discussion, I'm not one to normally give much credit to conspiracy theories but anyone whose an ex-jw knows what a mind control experiment it really is.

  I"m not advocating that an illuminati exists. I just want to hear the arguments pro or con.
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  Bubbamar

  Thanks for breaking that down for me. It finally makes sense. Actually the way I found this site and others like it was because someone told me about Freemason's. I had never heard of them so I google'd it. One of the first things I stumbled across was that Charles Taze Russell was a Freemason and a high ranking Freemason financed him to start the religion. Also read about the Mormons being essentially the same religion. I still don't know much about it but I am interested to read the responses your post will get.

  Thanks
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  Corvin

  Dolph,

  Some do assert that Russell was a 33degree mason, but I have seen absolutely no evidence of this. Do you have any proof other than the symbology he used in his writings or the mason-like pyramid near his grave?

  Sincerely,

  Corvin
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  sf

  If you type a few of the keywords regarding your topic of discussion here into Simons search engine, you'll discover many threads on same topic.

  I have it on good authority too that Russell was an oil speculator. I cannot elaborate, yet dig deeper into the research engines of google and click on 'groups'.

  Happy trails!

  sKally
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  L_A_Big_Dawg

  Kerry and Bush are also members of the skull and bones society, an
  offshoot of the freemasons.

  Hmmmmmm, I wonder if this means that Kerry is a dumba$$ like W.

  LABD, of the lousy sarcastic remark class
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  DireStraitJacket

  I've read similar stuff, a bit more drastic in that it involved lizards and people from mars, but it gets the same point as what you researched.
  
  on the point of the unifed government, last week I saw an add in the paper (South African Mail & Guardian) sponsored by some doctor (I can't remember his name) calling on all countries in the world to unite and join the new Alliance of Nations to take over from the UN. He said that the UN no longer has any authority as they broke the charter by which they exist when they recently authorized the american troops in iraq, this suggesting that any country can invade a smaller country for resources and say later that they needed to do it to survive and get it authorized or something like that..
  
  
  The more you read about this stuff and watch worldly events the scarier it gets because almost everything fits into the picture..
  
  What I read also tied the ancient Inca (I think) sundial time thingy that predicted the end of the world in 2012, and how the illuminati were aiming to have a unified world government in place setup by then. For what reason I don't know, some theories suggest alien contact will be made then, or the world will have to fight unitedly insome greater war or something..
  
  I don't know enough to explain it properly but it seems plausible in that it is really hard to disprove
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  Quotes

  I was just talking about Russell + Masons today with my brother.
  
  Doing 30 seconds of Googling:
  
  The Mason apologists deny the Illuminati conspricay: (admittedly, not an objective source)
  http://www.masonicinfo.com/illuminati.htm
  
  Turning to more objective sources, The Straight Dope says:
  The Illuminati play a leading role in what is without doubt the muthah conspiracy theory of all time, stretching back at least two centuries and probably as far as the Pleistocene epoch, to hear some tell it. Adherents of the theory, who for the most part are right-wing fruitcakes, claim it explains every social upheaval from the French Revolution of 1789 through the Russian Revolution of 1917. The Illuminati are said to be the guiding force behind a vast international cabal involving the Masons, German and/or Jewish socialists, the Bolsheviks, and revolutionaries of every stripe, whose principal aim is either the establishment of a totalitarian one-world government, the destruction of Western civilization, or both. This ain't no foolin' around, apocalypse fans.
  
  The article then goes on to briefly trace the history of the Illuminati group and the Masons, two distinct organizations.
  
  
  
  Skeptics Dictionary sheds some, well, illumination:
  The Illuminati was a secret society in Bavaria in the late 18th century. They had a political agenda that included republicanism and abolition of monarchies, which they tried to institute by means of "subterfuge, secrecy, and conspiracy," including the infiltration of other organizations.* They fancied themselves to be "enlightened" but they had little success and were destroyed within fifteen years of their origin (Pipes 1997). [...] Although there are two main "sects" of PCTs [Paranoid conspiracy theorists], the militant Christian fundamentalist branch and the UFO/alien branch, and although they each think the other is evil or nuts, their paranoia has the same focus: the end is near.
  
  ~Quotes, of the "Telling You To Not Believe The Conspiracy Because I am One Of the Illuminati" class. ;)
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  dolphman

  Hey Carvin,

  Apparently there is record of Russell giving sermons in Masonic lodges, where he often referred to himself as a Mason. Some of the transcripts can be found online. Also, the cover of one of his books featured a Masonic symbol on the front of it, the wings of horus.

  I suggest doing some serious googling. There are some freaks out there but there is also some real genuine info that definitely ties him to the masons. Watchtower and Millenial Dawn/Golden Dawn (i think the old Awake was called this) are actual Masonic buzz words. "Watchtower" is the English translation of the hebrew word "Mizpah", a commonly used word in Masonic lexicon.

  I have to be more research myself, I've just started.
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  berten

  >...Is there anything to this? Please, this is a serious discussion,...

  Have you been reading some of David Icke's books?

  If not,just enter his name in your favorite P2P-program and check out

  one or more of the *.pdf - files that pop up...
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  Golf

  I'm going to cite a few books about Freemasons.

  Check the following books, 'The Curse of Canaan' by Eustace Mullins

  'Pawns In The Game' by William Guy Carr

  'Conspirators' Hierarchy The Story Of The Committee of 300' by Dr. John Coleman

  'Rothschild Money Trust' by George Armstrong

  You can purchase these books at TGS-HiddenMysteries.Com or [email protected]

  Another great source of material is provided by Myron C. Fagan

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