Elswhere, I would like to add that what the elder proposed is evolution and it is evolution at a very rapid rate. Did evolution also affect the birds? Wintesses are taught that all animals were vegetarian before the flood. So, how long did it take for carnivorous birds to develope? After all, there are major structural differences between meet eating birds and seed eating birds. For that matter, how long did it take lions to go from grass eating animals to meat eating animals? If such a thing is possible, the evolution was at the speed of light compared to what is known about evolutionary processes.