My last stand Kingdum Hell in Rockland Massachusetts had a library with a huge 25mm thick plate glass window.It was salvaged from the Boston John Hancock tower and was actually 'bullet proof'.Originally the glass was manufactured super strong to resist tweaking and bending under seismic loads[earthquake proof]
A fit-up setting to showcase what went on in the ''control room''.
Elder control freaks with a mean streak.They would subject their victims to the JEOPARDY GAME,framing multiple false accusations IN THE FORM OF A QUESTION. 
(1)Bro Haszard we were ASKED if you were a nerd who doesn't want to have any fun?When we were ASKED we said no.
(2) Bro Haszard we were ASKED if you were a faggot?When we were ASKED we said no.
(3)Bro Haszard we were ASKED if you were trying to,"draw attention to yourself with 'big' cash contributions"?When we were ASKED we said no/
(4)Bro Haszard we were ASKED if you were "trying to draw attention to yourself" by .............. (5) ditto (6) ditto ....
They go to school,(elder seminars) to learn this manipulative s**T.
As the Mealy mouthing continued onlookers who had poised the questions to be ASKED would watch and gloat gleefully.
.My nearly blind from birth JW mom would say that everything about JW's was for show and control.Indeed,how perceptive my mother.
Were You Ever Hauled Into The Library By The Elders...
by exjdub 38 Replies latest jw friends
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Undaunted Danny
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Leolaia
BTW, your story about the drawing reminds me of my own tracing I did of a Neolithic cave carving that depicted a sex orgy, wherein the figures had at least a dozen erect penises. I kept that drawing with the rest of my research on Genesis, the Flood, Nimrod, and antediluvian archaeology. Oh, this was when I was about 13 or so. Anyway, my mom found it one day in my drawer and was very "concerned". Then I explained, quite innocently, that this was a historical document that depicts life before the Flood, and the wickedness of those who lived in the days of Noah. I honestly believed this, and I had no clue that someone could look at it as pornographic and something that I should not have drawn, and something that indicated some perverse interest in orgies on my part. How could I have possibly known that? ;)
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Gadget
The elders were afraid to be in the library with me.
Me too, in the end they never approached me about anything, just went and told my friends to keep away from me instead. I remember a shepherding call I had once where an elder from another hall complained to the po in my hall about me(I'd went and confronted him with proof that he'd been spreading confidential infomation about me). It went pretty well, the elders agreed that the other elder was out of order and asked me to leave it with them, and also said they had been a bit worried about coming to the shepherding call because they didn't know how I was going to react to it(It was about 18months/2yrs after I had a major major disagreement with a bunch of elders, which resulted in 2 POs from different halls being replaced).
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micheal
I hate that friggin library!!
The elders use that cold frigid room as their personal torture chamber. They make up any excuse possible to get "the flock" in that room with them. It always seemed to happen just when I was starting to experience some sort of "joy" they would use that room to remind me just who is in charge. You know, abuse their power, show off their muscles.
I think the question should be, "who hasn't been hauled into the library with the elders?"
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L_A_Big_Dawg
In a comittee meeting for smoking weed (I was about 17 or 18), I was asked if I ever said to Sister Newly-Divorcednever DF'd Pioneer (and 10 years my senior), "Why don't we spend the night at the Sagebrush Inn (a local high-end resort in my old hometown), and then have breakfast?" My mouth dropped open wide, and I was absolutely speechless (which is a mighty difficult task). I couldn't believe that I had heard what I heard.
I told them that was absolutely a bald-faced lie. Now she was not in the library to make this charge. Secondly, I was working a part-time job as in the restaurant business. So the fact of staying at this resort would have been beyond my meager means. Thirdly, though Sister Newly-Divorced was attractive, she was too old for my taste at that time. And fourthly, that I really didn't even like to be around her, because she was a bit too snobby for my taste. So I told the three bozos, that this was a lie through and through. To which the JC chairman, said, but did you ever ask her that? I looked at the chief bozo, and said, absolutely deadpan, "Did the drugs you took in Haght-Ashbury affect your hearing?"
This didn't go over very well, needless to say. However, one of the other elders leaned over to the JC chair, and said I don't think we need to go into this further.
To make a long story short. I soke with my dad (PO in the Cong.) and asked him to start JC proceedings against Sister Newly-Divorced for slander. However, my dad refused, saying that it wouldn't look good, on the grounds that I had just been Publiclly Reproved.
Now many of you have spoken about a double standard for elders' kids. Well this elder's kid never got a break (3 JCs with 2 Public Reproofs) and when I was slandered had to sit back and take it.
And Sister Newly-Divorced always looked at me with a smug smile that I wanted to slap off her face.
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RR
I had a part on the service meeting. I made a comment, that some took exception too. It had to do with paradise. The elders took me in the office and "beat" me up over it. I told them that this is what the Society teaches, they disagreed. I shared with them the article. Apparently it was an article that had just arrived in the mail.
The official rule, I am told, is, changes only become official when the article is studied in the meetings .... lol
Another time I made a comment about personal study, I stated that if we don't put anything in here [pointing to the head] there is nothing for the holy spirit to retrieve during those difficult times ahead, when we have literature or Bible. The elders took me in the back and told me "you can't say that!" "Why not? It's true!" he said,"I'm gonna get complaints about that comment, saying you were speaking about them." I told him, "who in their right mind is going to confront you and admit that they don't study?" Remarkable!!!
RR
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Stephanus
They wanted to nail me to the wall. I would have been the first JW to be disfellowshipped for a drawing of a belly button!
What really steams me up about this is that the "offending" drawing by you, is in the song book paid for and owned by you! IOW, it was your private property and therefore none of their business! What a bunch of fascists!
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RunningMan
Leo: A true Christian would have put pants on those cave drawings.
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exjdub
The elders were afraid to be in the library with me.
No wonder Blondie, you were always bending everybody's fingers back, LOL!
I was for gossiping.
I wasnt even!
Stefanie,
I think it was really for talking about a freckle on your heynanunanu (I would use the real word as you requested on your VM thread, but we are not on an adult thread)
I think the question should be, "who hasn't been hauled into the library with the elders?"
Good point Michael...who hasn't been in there?
The library is where I had my one scary encounter with the elders, on whether I was trying to secretly discredit the Society.
Well were you Leolaia? Hmmmmm? Tell the truth now.
.My nearly blind from birth JW mom would say that everything about JW's was for show and control.Indeed,how perceptive my mother.
Well said Danny! I enjoyed the "drama". You are too funny.
elder from another hall complained to the po in my hall about me(I'd went and confronted him with proof that he'd been spreading confidential infomation about me).
Gadget, I think you and I could compare notes. I had something very similar happen. They don't usually deal too well with someone who knows proper procedure. It sounds like you had them on the ropes.
What really steams me up about this is that the "offending" drawing by you, is in the song book paid for and owned by you! IOW, it was your private property and therefore none of their business! What a bunch of fascists!
Stephanus,
That's what I get for losing my songbook and having them find it in lost and found with my name on it. When they opened it to see who it belonged to, they saw the picture!
When honey-bunny and I were first dating, I went to one of the elders who was a pretty cool guy ( I thought) and informed him that I had a "worldly" boyfriend.
Insomniac,
Are you crazy?? That's a guaranteed visit to the library! What were you thinking??
exjdub
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zev
We were at a circuit assembly in the Natick, MA assembly hall, bored.....
i was there from that buildings opening in the 70's, till 2001, as bored as you were at every assembly.
my tales are more of the sort, "how many elders did i drag back into the library to thrash"?
i was never the sort to take any bs at all. once, twenty or so years ago, when i was newly married to my dub ex-wife, an elder (an old crotchedy, cantancorus, pig headed @$$ that he was) had my wife in tears over something or another and had royally reamed her a new one, totally unbeknown to me and without my presence. i hauled his @$$ into the library where both the pigheaded fools, him and i went at it. in the end, another elder HAD to come in and run interference because he wasn't giving in, and neither was i.
to say the least i set the tone right there and then. don't mess with me and my family, i'll throw you under the front wheel of the first bus i see, and watch as the rear tandums give you a double bump, with pleasure.
i wasn't called in to often.
