F.Y.I. Elder on the Edge

by avengers 19 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • avengers
    avengers

    I guess people are waking up.
    "I am new to this. Still "taking the lead" in my congregation with severe 

    doubts ?To add to that, this publicity about the child abuse issue

    (silentlambs) has me very disgusted with the society.

    Let me share with you all a true, but anonymous, story:
    Recently, we went to our district conv. and the guest speaker was GB 

    member Bro. Sam Heard. He was an excellent speaker, but in his keynote

    final address, he made a joke about the silentlambs controversy and how

    what they were doing was "the work of the devil". This comment really got

    under my skin. Made me very mad, since I had done enough research by

    this point, to know that this was not the truth...
    At great personal risk, after the conv. meeting ended, I confronted him in 

    thecorridor. He and his wife were coming out from backstage. I told him

    he had given a good talk, but I needed to get clarification on one point...

    I asked him whether or not the claims of child abuse
    (It seemed like a good True/False touchstone question.)

    I am pleased to say that he did not lie to me. He did not say that the claims were false, (as anyone could easily guess by the amount of people coming forward...) He said something about how "some of them had been greatly exaggerated, however". I pressed him further and expressed my concern that the "two witness rule" did not offer enough protection for our children... "that there would never be two witnesses to child abuse..." (at this point, his wife seems disgusted and walks off from us). Of course, he readily defended this rule, telling me that it was a Bible-based rule from the Hebrew Scriptures...

    Since I had studied our own state law very recently, and was up-to-date on our statutes, I quickly told him quite firmly that in my state it is illegal (a misdemeanor) for many kinds of professionals to NOT report child abuse, and cited the statute number as I mentioned this... I described that this included doctors, attorneys, firemen, policemen, state employees, chiropractors, mental health workers, psychologists, child care workers, etc.... He, at this point, made some patronizing remark I cannot recall, like "that's good". I told him that the law does not specifically include clergy, but was it not true that many of the brothers served in these other capacities in the workplace? Shouldn't we then model the state law in my state and inform the brothers (who at present are, as best I can tell, ignorant of the state law on this topic)? I told him that there was even a toll free number for the brothers to use to reports such incidents, and they did not even have to get involved when it comes to child abuse situations- just let the police handle it, I suggested.

    The conversation ended shortly after that, with me rambling on about being concerned about my own child and that we do not have enough protection for children. I wrapped up and departed quickly, as others were now beginning to hover around, and I did not want him to figure out exactly who I was... I think I disappeared quick enough that he did not get time to find out.

    So far no serious repercussions yet... I probably went too far though, and took too much personal risk, but I had to get it off my chest.; I wish more would do the same ..."

  • Sassy
    Sassy

    wow.. awesome guts that took.

  • cypher50
    cypher50

    That took a lot of guts and it is just sad how even when acknowledging a problem they cannot humble themselves to see things any other way but their own.

  • seedy3
    seedy3
    I pressed him further and expressed my concern that the "two witness rule"

    Well I also think that an unmarried woman should marry her rapist, and clothing with mixed fibers should not be worn, plus we need to wipe out all the Canaanites. friggin idiots

    Seedy

    P.S. BTW I love that copy of the awake you got there

  • Hunyadi
    Hunyadi

    Yes, good for you!

    Welcome, by the way.

    Hunyadi

  • nobody told me
    nobody told me

    OMG Protecting children from abuse is the work of the Devil. Good for your courage to confront one of the borg's big shots.

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    Protecting children is not the issue. Protecting the WT Society is the issue. Children are disposable. EVERYONE is disposable to them. After all, "Jehovah" will use the WTS to rule the earth and universe forever and ever.

    Scary.

    Farkel

  • Valis
    Valis
    plus we need to wipe out all the Canadianites. friggin idiots

  • Frannie Banannie
    Frannie Banannie

    SHEESH! What a total jerk (off)! You got cajones, bro! Good for YOU!

    Frannie B

  • shotgun
    shotgun

    Avenger that was an incredible thing on your part to do...his wife's attitude seems even worse.

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