Logical Problem with WT Anointed

by Vanderhoven7 23 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • zeb

    I understand there is no consultation by the gb with the 144,000 for any of their decisions or statements.? true? then where do they get their new light from?

  • Village Idiot
    Village Idiot

    Dear Sir,

    I have duly received four proof sheets of your explanation of the Apocalypse with your letters of December 29th and January 8th; in the last of which you request that so soon as I shall be of opinion that the explanation you have given is correct I would express it in a letter to you. From this you must be so good as to excuse me because I make it an invariable rule to decline ever giving opinions on new publications in any case whatever. No man on earth has less taste or talent for criticism than myself and least and last of all should I undertake to criticise works on the Apocalypse. It is between fifty and sixty years since I read it and I then considered it as merely the ravings of a maniac no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams. I was therefore well pleased to see in your first proof sheet that it was said to be not the production of St John but of Cerinthus a century after the death of that apostle. Yet the change of the author's name does not lessen the extravagances of the composition and come they from whomsoever they may I cannot so far respect them as to consider them as an allegorical narrative of events past or subsequent. There is not coherence enough in them to countenance any suite of rational ideas. You will judge therefore from this how impossible I think it that either your explanation or that of any man in the heavens above or on the earth beneath can be a correct one. What has no meaning admits no explanation and pardon me if I say with the candor of friendship that I think your time too valuable and your understanding of too high an order to be wasted on these paralogisms. You will perceive I hope also that I do not consider them as revelations of the Supreme Being whom I would not so far blaspheme as to impute to Him a pretension of revelation couched at the same time in terms which He would know were never to be understood by those to whom they were addressed. In the candor of these observations I hope you will see proofs of the confidence esteem and which I entertain for you.

  • Village Idiot
    Village Idiot

    The above quote was from Thomas Jefferson to General Alexander Smyth Monticello January 17 1825

    I don't know why that got omitted from my first post.

  • Perry

    Excellent catch Vanderhoven.

    Europe also saw the eradication of as many of 50 Million bible-believing Christians during the 800 year reign of terror of the papal Inquisitions in the middle ages.

    All before 1914.

  • nicolaou
    Europe also saw the eradication of as many of 50 Million bible-believing Christians during the 800 year reign of terror of the papal Inquisitions in the middle ages.

    That's well over 5000 dead christians every month of every year for 800 years.

    You're a grade A idiot Perry.

  • Vanderhoven7

    Thanks for the site www.bibleready.org Perry... I appreciated their opening paragraphs as follows:

    "The entire doctrinal superstructures of both Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses are based on one basic premise. Without this pretext, neither organization could doctrinally exist. The official assertion for both organizations goes something like this:

    True Christianity died out sometime between the first century and the time Roman emperor Constatine took power. Both claim that it was not restored until 1500 - 1800 years later by Charles Taze Russell (for the Jehovah's Witnesses) or Joseph Smith (for the Mormons).

    Both groups point to the attrocities committed by the Catholic Heirachy down through the dark ages as proof that Christianity died. However, they fail to look closely at the objects of Papal hatred as well as the historical record of non-conformity of these peoples. In actuality, there were many tens of millions of Christians, spanning nearly two thousand years and several continents who refused to conform to the hierarchial Catholic Church and paid the ultimate price for faith in Christ alone.

    These dissenters and non-conformist groups are WITHOUT PARALLEL in all of world history in their record of faith while being subjected unspeakable tortures. It should not be surprising to learn that the Lord entrusted his WORD to these often overlooked peoples. Over 99% of all known ancient New Testament Manuscripts were copied by these individuals and they were handed down generation after generation, eventually making their way into the hands of politically connected Reformers. MANY groups in the past and present have been neither Catholic nor Protestant, just Christian.

    Neither the Catholic Church, the Watchtower Governing Body nor the Mormon Priesthood wants this record of faith in Christ alone to be told because it undermines their institutional idolatry and self-worship.

    The doctrine of a defeated church is falsified by the voices of millions of martyred believers as well as the Lord Jesus Chirist himself: "

    Alway: (Strong's) "inclusive of the parts of both extremes ; a period"

  • Half banana
    Half banana

    Instead of thinking on the "unspeakable tortures" of martyrdom of religious fanatics:

    Try real life for a change.......................it is very refreshing!

  • prologos

    According to wt, all christians were anointed before 1931. but with only ~ 130 000 openings for the only salvation before that, did all the millions of earlier partakers partake unworthily? after all, they did not believe in current true wt doctrines, the 1919 fd slave, (they erroneously thought the apostles were "in") the coming overlapping generation, the Other Sheep not as the gentiles but as non-Christian bread & wine refusers. so: according to wt logic, all these millions were not true Christians, despite martyrs sacrifice, but doomed because not anticipating wt temporarily fleeting doctrines? wt logical anointed problem indeed.

  • Vidiot

    What, the illogic of the "WT anointed" wasn't enough? :smirk:

  • nicolaou

    Perry and Vanderhoven. Are you both really going to perpetuate the myth that the Inquisitions killed as many Europeans during the Middle Ages as the Black Death?

    The peak population of Europe at that time was an estimated 100/120 million, the plague killed about 60% of them.

    What credible references do you have for claiming 50 million Inquisition deaths?

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