Circuit Overseer's Outlines

by AverageJoe1 26 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • careful
    careful

    Thank you AverageJoe1. I read them over and wondered whether some MS would go to an elder and "fess up" his watching porn online. What if the elder was in the same boat? Would he say, "Well, don't worry about it. It's not that big a deal." I doubt that, since if he did, it might eventually come back on him when he is found out. So then it really looks like he'd have to hypocritically counsel the MS not to do such bad things while he himself is doing the same. I don't think this scenario is so impossible. I remember elders who carried on illicit sexual relations with sisters or more commonly with "worldly" women, cheating on their wives, for years, DFing others while doing so, and then finally being found out, or just quitting one day, abandoning their wife and kids, and shocking their fellow elders.

    It seems like porno watching would be more common. Therefore, the above scenario must be real.

    The GB must see this as a genuine problem, the way they keep bringing it up over and over.

    Another thing that struck me is how even the CO has very little leeway to add his own stuff. Even for them every moment is scripted. It really has become an organization of robots, speaking only what they have been told. Hardly Heb. 5:14!

    Perhaps the scripture that best describes the org today is that one from Ecclesiastes, repeated several times, "Nothing new under the sun. Everything is vanity and a striving after the wind." That is probably the most depressing, negative book in the Bible in overall spirit.

  • asp59
    asp59

    Careful

    They are old and married so they bring up subjects they are not falling short on. I want to see them bringing regularly the subject of 1timothy 4:15 about progressing regularly in public speaking (platform). Know they won't cause they never progressing themselves. Nothing new under sun when it comes to double standards.πŸ˜‹πŸ˜

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat
    Another thing that struck me is how even the CO has very little leeway to add his own stuff.

    Did I read it wrong? I thought the outline says it’s the responsibility of the CO to devise their own service talk, which if I remember correctly is a 30 minute talk after the WT? That seems like quite a chunk of freedom for the CO to say what they like.

    So then it really looks like he'd have to hypocritically counsel the MS not to do such bad things while he himself is doing the same. I don't think this scenario is so impossible.

    I think this scenario, and the others you mentioned, are probably common place to point of being routine. I have increasingly come to the conclusion that JW standards are impossible to meet because everyone is guilty of breaking some Watchtower rule. This is no accident. This serves an ideological and organisational function because it gets JWs to be experts at rationalising their behaviour, a skill which comes in useful when Watchtower asks its followers to do things they would otherwise consider unethical.

  • redpilltwice
    redpilltwice

    Thanks AverageJoe1, I've downloaded them both.

    Do you have it also in Dutch maybe?

  • zeb
    zeb
    Throw the CO under bus! and we are not liable for anything!!
  • Darkknight757
    Darkknight757

    How are these β€œsex” talks appropriate for an audience with young children in them? And how do they not stir the emotions of the pedos that are hiding in the audience?

    Just disgraceful

  • Exelder
    Exelder

    They are obssessed with sex, tight pants and scantily clad advertising posters. They see sex even in the most innocent of places.

    One elder in my hall never missed an opportunity to warn the sisters about wearing short skirts and skimpy tops (they actually didn't even dress like that) even if the talk was about something compleltey different, like evolution.

    Every talk they give about this used to make the young ones snigger and used to alientate them even more.

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