In need of your advice. November broadcasting 2017

by pleaseresearch 18 Replies latest watchtower bible

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  stuckinarut2

  Ramah Singh.....
  
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  JaniceA

  Only share the ones that she can't justify with some vagueness clause. They have to be the real ones and there can be NO questionable ones in the mix. I know how they think and you do too-one example of yours that lacks credibilty will destroy the rest by association.
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  alanv

  Also its no good going back too far, as JWs just say that things have progressed now
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  pleaseresearch

  Thanks everyone. Your comments are all appreciated. If anything else comes to mind, just say.
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  deegee

  Check these out. Hope you'll find something in there that helps.

  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/misquotes-deception-lies.php

  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K1T7porEjmQ

  http://www.debunking-christianity.com/2012/12/the-use-and-abuse-of-scholarship-by.html?m=1

  http://www.jwchanges.com/how-to-use/

  https://jwawaken.com/2016/06/08/what-is-quote-mining/

  http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/watchtower-again-misquotes-scientist-to-argue-against-evolution-and-this-time-its-personal

  http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/jw-org-does-partial-u-turn-over-awake-magazine-rama-singh-misquote

  https://www.inquisitr.com/1766536/biology-professor-creationist-magazine/

  http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/04/20/controversial-quotation-quietly-removed-from-jehovahs-witnesses-publication-without-apology-or-retraction/

  (The magazines with the biology professor's misquote:

  http://avoidjw.org/magazines/)

  http://avoidjw.org/en/truth-or-lies/quote-misquote/

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/37mbl4/by_evolution_we_mean_macroevolutionapes_turning/

  https://m.imgur.com/YvbzwUy

  http://home.comcast.net/~docbob1/misquotes.htm

  http://www.paradisecafediscussions.net/showthread.php?tid=2357

  http://corior.blogspot.com/2006/02/how-watchtower-distorts-writings-of_15.html

  http://ebedabodah.blogspot.com/2009/07/out-of-context.html

  http://corior.blogspot.com/2006/02/misquotations-in-creation-book.html

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  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5667328335282176/words-omitted-from-watchtower-article :

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/469880003/scholastic-dishonesty-watchtower

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/302230001/am-looking-audios-julius-mantey

  Julius Mantey, Greek Hebrew scholar quoted as supporting the New World Translation (NWT). He is a firm Trinitarian and was outraged when he found out.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/224416/june-2012-citation-ephraim-stern

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/214069/something-watchtower-left-out

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/205034/citation-1-soncino-commentary-on-ezekiel

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/189202/examples-wts-mishandling-medical-authorities-on-blood

  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t_IYc8fiKKY

  
  
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  scratchme1010

  By now you have plenty of references. I'd suggest that you organize all the references and quotes by doctrine or topic. Also, try to find from her what does she hold on to the most. Some of the JW teachings speak to people more than others. Start with those when you're ready).
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  pleaseresearch

  Yeah your right. I'll have to give this some real thought and print out what will make the biggest impact. Thanks Scratchme and thank you deegee. I really do appreciate all of them, I'll look at them all.
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  slimboyfat

  Watchtower misquotes were one of my biggest doubts in WT. Many are borderline and you could argue over. But some are simply outrageous. Here are a couple of the worst in my opinion (taken from jwfacts):

  "The Encyclopedia Americana notes that the doctrine of the Trinity is considered to be 'beyond the grasp of human reason." (Trinity brochure p.4)

  Full quote:

  It is held that although the doctrine is beyond the grasp of human reason, it is, like many of the formulations of physical science, not contrary to reason, and may be apprehended (though it may not be comprehended) by the human mind".

  "At this point a reader may begin to understand Dawkins' comment in the preface to his book: "This book should be read almost as though it were science fiction."" (Creation book, p. 39)

  Full quote:

  "This book should be read almost as though it were science fiction. It is designed to appeal to the imagination. But it is not science fiction: it is science. Cliché or not, "stranger than fiction" expresses exactly how I feel about the truth."

  https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/misquotes-deception-lies.php
  

  To get the full force of the misquotes it's probably a good idea to get the person to read the original WT publication in context, let the intent of the quotation set in, and only then reveal the parts that are missed out from the original source.

  
  
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  pleaseresearch

  Update:

  So hahaha, I have to laugh guys and girls. After sending the great video from Susan Gaskin about JW misquotes and lies. I wanted to know how she got on. She pretty much admitted to watching about a quarter of it before turning it off. I mean WTF!!!

  Yesterday I had to sit through over 1 hours of that bull from Watchtower and take notes and she couldn't even get through a 37 minute video, with proof that they have lied, covered up and misquoted people. She simply does not care if what they are saying is true or not.

  No way will I let this rest. I will print off some of the best things I can showing without any doubt what they have done is a lie to their Broadcasting video. But for her to not be able to stomach watching is..... (I don't know what to say)