Teacher "ruins" lives of first graders by saying Santa is illogical

by Gopher 63 Replies latest social current

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  czarofmischief

  Simon:MY GOD MAN they are 5 and 6 year olds do you no think they can learn logic and resoning say in 2nd grade or hey even Middle School (GEESH)

  Hm - seeing as how most children begin to develop differentiation skills around 1 month, I would say that the earlier they learn about logic sets and Socratic methodology, the better. Why should we stunt the development of whole generations just so some parents can have the "fun" of making their kids believe in something that patently isn't true? Yeesh, it's like you ruined this parent's big joke, and the parent is acting like a baby about it.

  CZAR
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  Stacy Smith

  WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE PEOPLE!

  OK you get to play with Simon now but stay away from the other children please.

  Kids hear about no Santa before school from others kids but they discount it. They just think the older kid is being mean or something. Reason doesn't enter their minds all that often at that age. But hearing it from a teacher is another story. Teachers make them believe everything at that age.
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  amac

  Yeru said: No, I don't agree. How hard is it to say..."Talk to your Mommy and Daddy about this"

  
  
  It's not hard at all, but when part of your curriculum is including Christmas in your curriculum, it is going to make the inquiries more prevalant and involve the teachers more often in something that should be a family matter. Without school policy on this, there is no consistency between teachers with some going overboard on Christmas telling the kids that "Santa is coming" and others telling all the kids that Santa is fake. We both agree on it being a family matter, I just don't see something that is a family matter having any place in the public school system.
  
  Also about all this talk of the imagination. How does Santa help a child's imagination? It is a preconceived myth that is provided to them, it requires no imagination. They are flooded with pictures and stories and songs about it, where does imagination kick in? In believing the stories? That's not imagination, that's faith.
  
  I see no long lasting benefit to believing in Santa and I don't see why equally good memories can't be created in gifts coming from parents. However, if people get a kick out of it, more power to them, just don't act like it is a mental stimulation to your child, because it's not.
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  Valis

  just don't act like it is a mental stimulation to your child, because it's not.

  How do you know this?
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  amac

  I don't necessarily know that...feel free to prove that there is some type of mental growth associated with believing in Santa. I just don't see any imagination involved which is what some were saying is the benefit of believing in Santa.
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  RubaDub

  The teacher could have been a bit more tactful.

  Although Santa Claus is not a real person, she could have at least confirmed the existence of the Elves.

  ***** Rub a Dub
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  Valis

  I would say that one could see the negative effects of some childhood fantasies, like the morbid JW crap they tell their kids, and much the same way those metaphors have an impact, perhaps taking the Santa metaphor and creating one's own version does require immagination. It isn't something that just comes upon you, because your role in the Santa myth changes...you go from total recipient, to being Santa eventually...its all fun along the way. Just rambling...blah blah blah..

  SIncerely,

  District Overbeer
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  amac

  creating one's own version does require immagination.

  I'm sorry, but with all the commercialism and consumerism related to Xmas, pretty much every possible "version" of the Santa myth is covered. You're right in that a child COULD change the myth through imaginative creation, but I'd be willing to bet that most kids stick to the usual fat men in a red suit bringing presents via a reindeer driven sled. Doesn't take a lot of imagination to picture that when you are surrounded by it.
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  amac

  And don't worry, rambling is what I do best.
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  Stacy Smith

  Go see the movie Bad Santa. It will straighten all you Santa apostates out.