I know many of the posters here mean well. They are so kind and good hearted, but some of them, simply don't know our fathers, and how their actions and deeds permanently affected us.
Hi Ray..........that line of yours made me think a bit. I guess ones who have never experienced the type of pain you are describing, really cannot offer good advise, though they mean well. Some of the stories are so sad it hurts to think parents can hurt their kids like they do.
Discussion boards make it very difficult to understand one another in a short time, so as to answer each other with a full understanding of where the other is coming from. I'm glad you and Nos have each other to talk to about these things you have in common.
Gumby