The true sign of a Cult-Like group is:

by stuckinarut2 25 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  punkofnice

  The cult drones must protect the reputation of their leader/s no matter what. The cult leader/s are above reproach and can never be held to account. Even if the cult leaders are found guilty and charged for vile crimes, in a court of law, it is the court of law that concocted the lies and were instruments of the devil. Any thought that the cult leader/s are wrong is high treason. Drones must protect the leader/s...end of story.

  Just watch the elders squirm and tell outright lies to protect the governing body at the ARC!
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  slimboyfat

  Excellent discussion of various criteria for evaluating high control groups here.

  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/fear-cult-mind-control.php
  
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  Half banana

  You are allowed to ridicule anything outside of the cult but you must never joke about the leaders or you will be punished.
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  Vidiot

  The cult is always right.

  Even when it isn't.
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  Finkelstein

  Potentially unsafe groups or leaders "come off very nice at first, they go for vulnerable people who are looking for answers, lonely, what you'd call 'normal people.' They're very good at what they do and can get people to believe anything. You might think you'd never get taken in, but don't bet on it. "
  

  -- Margaret Singer, Ph.D.

  
  By Rick Ross, Expert Consultant and Intervention Specialist

  Ten warning signs of a potentially unsafe group/leader.

  1. Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability.
  2. No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry.
  3. No meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget, expenses such as an independently audited financial statement.
  4. Unreasonable fear about the outside world, such as impending catastrophe, evil conspiracies and persecutions.
  5. There is no legitimate reason to leave, former followers are always wrong in leaving, negative or even evil.
  6. Former members often relate the same stories of abuse and reflect a similar pattern of grievances.
  7. There are records, books, news articles, or television programs that document the abuses of the group/leader.
  8. Followers feel they can never be "good enough".
  9. The group/leader is always right.
  10. The group/leader is the exclusive means of knowing "truth" or receiving validation, no other process of discovery is really acceptable or credible.

  Ten warning signs regarding people involved in/with a potentially unsafe group/leader.

  1. Extreme obsessiveness regarding the group/leader resulting in the exclusion of almost every practical consideration.
  2. Individual identity, the group, the leader and/or God as distinct and separate categories of existence become increasingly blurred. Instead, in the follower's mind these identities become substantially and increasingly fused--as that person's involvement with the group/leader continues and deepens.
  3. Whenever the group/leader is criticized or questioned it is characterized as "persecution".
  4. Uncharacteristically stilted and seemingly programmed conversation and mannerisms, cloning of the group/leader in personal behavior.
  5. Dependency upon the group/leader for problem solving, solutions, and definitions without meaningful reflective thought. A seeming inability to think independently or analyze situations without group/leader involvement.
  6. Hyperactivity centered on the group/leader agenda, which seems to supercede any personal goals or individual interests.
  7. A dramatic loss of spontaneity and sense of humor.
  8. Increasing isolation from family and old friends unless they demonstrate an interest in the group/leader.
  9. Anything the group/leader does can be justified no matter how harsh or harmful.
  10. Former followers are at best-considered negative or worse evil and under bad influences. They can not be trusted and personal contact is avoided.

  Ten signs of a safe group/leader.

  1. A safe group/leader will answer your questions without becoming judgmental and punitive.
  2. A safe group/leader will disclose information such as finances and often offer an independently audited financial statement regarding budget and expenses. Safe groups and leaders will tell you more than you want to know.
  3. A safe group/leader is often democratic, sharing decision making and encouraging accountability and oversight.
  4. A safe group/leader may have disgruntled former followers, but will not vilify, excommunicate and forbid others from associating with them.
  5. A safe group/leader will not have a paper trail of overwhelmingly negative records, books, articles and statements about them.
  6. A safe group/leader will encourage family communication, community interaction and existing friendships and not feel threatened.
  7. A safe group/leader will recognize reasonable boundaries and limitations when dealing with others.
  8. A safe group/leader will encourage critical thinking, individual autonomy and feelings of self-esteem.
  9. A safe group/leader will admit failings and mistakes and accept constructive criticism and advice.
  10. A safe group/leader will not be the only source of knowledge and learning excluding everyone else, but value dialogue and the free exchange of ideas.
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  Giordano

  "The quality of ideas seems to play a minor role in a cult. What counts is the complete disregard of the opinion of others." E H
  
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  QuestioningEverything

  They encourage you to tell/report on other members behavior or alleged wrongdoing. IE: keeping the congregation clean
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  stuckinarut2

  Thanks for posting that article finkelstein! Very good
  
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  Sorry

  One I've heard is that a cult will keep it's members extremely busy to keep questions from arising. Evident with undue emphasis on door-to-door ministry, meeting attendance and daily personal study and family worship evenings.
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  Vidiot

  @ Finkelstein...

  If the WTS ever started behaving like a "safe group", they'd no longer be Jehovah's Witnesses.