demons

by sens 50 Replies latest members private

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  Tashawaa

  Thanks, I'm hoping this will help you, but it won't end "bad dreams". We get them all our lives, it just to find out the negative emotion you need to work through. For me it has been:

  - stress - "I'm either a waitress with a resturant full of people and only me to serve" or "I'm back in school as an adult because my work found I didn't graduate"

  - fear/helplessness - "demon dreams" My sister was successful. Here's her dream and how she defeated the demons. She's in an old house and she can feel demons are there. They are in the walls. They move out of the walls to get her and she has no place to go. She called out to Jehovah, but the demons just laugh at her. He can't help her, she doesn't believe in him. She feels helpless and afraid, but something inside of her says "hey, wait, I don't believe in demons either". So she tells them that they don't exist, and they disappear. She's never had the dream again.

  - trapped/controlled - "Kingdom hall/convention" dreams (see my previous and latest one)

  - can't get what I need (this one's hard to define emotionally) - I need to go to the bathroom, but its full. And once I find a stall its gross, dirty, plugged up. Can't use it. So I got control by telling myself I would just clean the bathroom. The products showed up, I cleaned and now I don't have any more "bathroom" dreams.

  You'll have to let me know how it goes. What your senerio is for overcoming or defeating this dream.
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  lovinlife

  Oh how I used to dream about demons! One time, I dreamed they were in my room and throwing the books off the shelves at me in my bed, then throwing me around the room. I too tried to call out to Jehovah and couldn't. I was so freaked out at age 16 I went to my dad and begged him to come sleep in the other bed in my room! He told me that I would just sleep and not go back into my dream now that I was awake. Guess what...I did go back into the dream. I ran out screaming that he had to sleep with me. He did and it stopped. In my case, I think it came from a particularly traumatic incident with a ghost/demon/whatever as a child. It's a long story and I will share it at some point because happened when my mom started studying w/ the jws. I wish I could tell you how to get rid of them. Every few years I have another one...but some of the advice you were given so far sounds really good to try!
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  sens

  ((((((((Tash))))))) thanks heaps

  ((((lovin))))) yer i know is bloody horrid...ive gone back to a dream even after waking up....I think also 2 that the old 'books flying round' with the demons thing must travel far and wide coz that was a favorite urban legend here as well...no wonder we dream about this stuff.
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  NEWWORLDSLACKER

  ((((Sens)))) Hey Honey , how did I totally miss this thread ? I used to have the same type of dreams just a wile ago , I remember being somewhere in my dream where I didn?t feel safe . I remember being in a store once and in a relatives home, and once even a district convention , and a demonic darkness would fall upon the whole building . I was the only one who could see it coming and once it was there everyone else would seem out of faze and darkly invisible . Then the spirit creatures would gather round and torment me in various ways . Geeze those dreams were awful . After months of self analysis , I realized what was causing the dreams , It was all of the things that I wouldn?t allow myself to think about . Namely Being raised a jw and all of the emotional baggage that it brings , My abuse as a child at the hands of many adults , and the fear of finding out that there is no one true enlightenment . I have spent the past few years working on these issues , and have made some progress . They say bones heal and wounds mend but many of the things I struggle with may stay with me for the rest of my life . And I have made peace with that . All I can tell you is ...... search out what your "demons" are and battle them during the waking hours . I luvs ya kiddo ,Dr Newworld has an rx for you : have sweet dreams tonight . And thats an order !

  NwS
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  bebu

  Sens,

  I had a dream in Japan long ago, and it ended with someone straddling over me as I lay under the blankets, and beginning to strangle me while I was lying in bed. It was so bizarre that I woke myself up--hearing the noises of people getting breakfast in the kitchen, etc--but the weight of the person was still heavy upon me, shifting around I was so frozen I could not breathe--let alone ask this "person" what was going on.

  My hair absolutely on end, my mind prayed like a short breath itself, automatically: "Jesus Christ!"

  At that instant, the world changed. Not only did the weight disappear, but I was completely filled with JOY. The most surprising ending! I went out and told my fellow-teacher (an agnostic) of what had just happened, it was so amazing. I'd never had a "dream" like this before, or since.

  BTW we have had exchange students before, and when I told a girl from Hong Kong about this odd experience, she said such dreams of being attacked or smothered by demons were common there, and people lived in great fear of these dreams. There was, I believe, a special name for them.

  So... If Jesus is able to cast out demons as the Bible claims, don't call on Jehovah (whom you associate with evil anyway), but Jesus. This is the only thing I can propose confidently to you.

  (Is that something you feel willing to do?)

  bebu
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  sens

  I luvs ya kiddo ,Dr Newworld has an rx for you

  ((((((nws)))))))) luvs ya 2....ty

  Bebu..my mother has been talking to me about praying to Jesus lately, she had been listening to some experiances of xjw etc...Im not sure, I feel weird about actually praying to Jesus..just the wts brainwashing I guess. Im still really confused over what I Believe...its hard.
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  Sentinel

  Sens, when I was a small child, well before the JW influence, things were happening to me and when I got old enough to verbalize that I saw or heard some-"thing" or someone, another adult was right there to say "oh, no you didn't". You were just dreaming, or you just made it up. Although some kids do have rather vivid emaginations, I was not one who falsely told stories or made up things to get attention. When an adult does not validate your experience, you have to find a way to cope.

  When I was quite small and didn't know any better, I would try to talk outloud to "it". As I grew older and adults put a label to it, I was in terrible fear. I slept with covers over my head and a light on all the time. The JW dogma kept me horrified at something I had no control over. Then as I got older, once again, I simply began acknowledging the "company" and letting it go. I realize that sometimes because people don't understand something, they develop a fear of it. In most all instances, nothing harmful occurs--in fact, for the most part, it is genuienly comforting. Although I realize now, that bad things can happen if you freak out in the dark and cause harm to yourself by tripping or falling, or by incorrect breathing which causes lack of oxygen to the brain.

  Although I have no problem watching scary movies, there are some things I stay away from--things that still make a shiver run down my spine. One is the movie "The Exorcist", and the other is the Ouija Board. I have seen the Exorcist completely twice. Now I don't go there. I have read the history of this movie, and that it is based upon the true account of a young boy who was possessed. I've had first hand experience with the "game", so I don't go there either. Others pooh-pooh me and say it's all only harmless fun. For me, it is not. These are my experiences and that's all I have to go by.

  Also, I try not to eat too many sugary things before retiring at night. A combination of "input" and "stimulation" can cause really bad dreams. Add to that the belief system of the JW's and the constant fear of Satan and demons, etc., and you have created an atmosphere for living in fear and sleeping in fear. Although most of us are removed from that input, we are still subcontiously influenced. Not a healthy life for sure. Keeping things in the proper perspective, eating right and learning how to relax at the end of the day will help you. Getting rid of all the dogma crap is a positive thing which clears up the webs in the mind and allows for more healthy living as well. It takes a bit of time to do these things.

  Sure hope you can get some good sleep soon! You just might need a sleep aid to help a bit.
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  bebu

  ((((sens))))

  This is hard, I agree. I think I would feel like everything's in a blender.

  Im not sure, I feel weird about actually praying to Jesus..just the wts brainwashing I guess

  Hmmmmmm. And why would the WT want to brainwash people against praying to Jesus? Is this idea so unimportant, or misguided, afterall? (I feel like starting a thread.) ...It seems a simple job of the devil would be to reframe things which are important as being either dreadfully wrong or dreadfully unimportant .

  (To me, the WT is like the devil in a suit anyway, so everything they have said is totally suspect--especially in regards to any/all spiritual counsel!) Talk to your mom some more and see what else she has heard.

  bebu
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  sens

  ((nws)) xxx I just wanted to add that yer hun only you could see it because you were waking up to the wts xxx luv ya heaps 2 xx

  ((bebu)) Im still finding it hard to accept alot of what these ministrys (my mother has been listening to) have to say...Jesus Is God etc...I find hard to get my head around...

  ((sentinel)) i know its horrid...I do however agree on staying away from the whole ouija thing...I agree that its dangerous..i dont think its harmless either...game or not.

  hugs

  Sens
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  bebu

  ((Sens))

  There are times when theology just gets in the dang way. Knowing 'about' God keeps us from simply knowing God. So forget theology. Nobody's is perfect, anyway. God knows your situation!

  Here's a suggestion. Before you go to bed, have a real heart-to-heart with God. Tell him you 'can't get your head around' anything, and it's hard to move forward--or in any direction for that matter--in sorting things out. Tell him you are hoping for some clear direction.

  Then, tell him that you wish to have these nightmares end. Tell him you're going to experiment, and that if you've got it wrong in asking Jesus to save you from these nightmares, then to help you know that, too-- and you trust he will not be frothing like the WT would suggest...

  I suppose you could even pray to Jesus before you sleep as well; something that reflects your thoughts about this situation and your desire for help. If he's your key to getting demons out of your life, ask him to show you.

  I realize it's a real stretch for you. Whatever you do, just be real in the moment. Stark honesty with God has better dividends than trying to unravel theological puzzles.

  bebu

  More sheep for you!!---->