Jehovah's Witnesses and Lying

by ozziepost 15 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    In their own words:

    *** w83 3/1 19 "Flocking Together in Battle Line" ***


    In carnal warfare it is essential that officers and other personnel have briefing sessions so as to be kept up-to-date on the movements on the battlefield and the latest enemy strategy. Likewise, our meetings at the Kingdom Hall or elsewhere are vital so that we may be regularly strengthened by the Word of God and his holy spirit, as well as being kept alert to the movements of the enemy

    *** w60 6/1 352 Questions from Readers ***


    As a soldier of Christ he is in theocratic warfare and he must exercise added caution when dealing with God?s foes. Thus the Scriptures show that for the purpose of protecting the interests of God?s cause, it is proper to hide the truth from God?s enemies.

    *** w57 5/1 285 Use Theocratic War Strategy ***


    Perhaps some will wonder as to where the line is to be drawn between use of theocratic war strategy in hiding the truth and the telling of lies.

    *** w57 5/1 285 Use Theocratic War Strategy ***


    Lies are untruths told for selfish reasons and which work injury to others. Satan told a lie to Eve that worked great harm to her and all the human race. Ananias and Sapphira told lies for selfish reasons. But hiding the truth, which he is not entitled to know, from an enemy does not harm him, especially when he would use such information to harm others who are innocent.

    In a statement to Sunday, the President of the Watchtower Society of Australia, Harold "Viv" Mouritz, declines to be interviewed but says: "My inquiries indicate that the elders involved did not give instructions not to report the abuse to the police." Mr Mouritz denies all knowledge of the concept of "theocratic warfare" and expresses the church?s abhorrence of child abuse.

  • HoChiMin
    HoChiMin

    Oz,

    I remember these well, we (elders) had a plan developed in responce to a letter from the WT where we would lateral pass the files from one elder to another and never admitting they existed if the government came looking for them.

    HCM

  • rocketman
    rocketman

    Then Mr. Mouritz is lying. Otherwise, even by the precepts of his own religion, he would have and could have simply said 'yes, I know of Theocratic Warfare strategy' and then offered to explain it using the articles Ozzie just referenced.

    Of course, he knows that no non-jw investigator would really accept such an explanation. Such investigators have in mind the welfare of children, not the destruction of some religion. But jws see them as "enemies".

  • gumby
    gumby
    our meetings at the Kingdom Hall or elsewhere are vital so that we may be regularly strengthened by the Word of God and his holy spirit, as well as being kept alert to the movements of the enemy

    What'ya wanna bet that you can get MORE information on the dubs in 1 hour right here...........than you can in 1 hour at the hall?...........and............WHO did they say the enemy was again?

    Gumby

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    Q.: Given their endorsement and sanction of perjuryand the fact that they have NEVER repudiated this doctrine, how can anyone know when a JW is telling the truth?

    A.: You can't.

  • Mr. Kim
    Mr. Kim

    Bottom line is: Can anyone really trust JWs?

  • mizpah
    mizpah

    As JWs, we all knew the concept of "theocratic strategy." Articles used examples in the Bible to justify this view. (Abraham, David, etc.) What is so shocking today is that the Watchtower organization would use it to try to cover up sexual abuse in its own organization. One would expect that "righteous men" would be at the forefront to eliminate this abuse. Instead, to save face of a faceless organization, they have done their utmost to cover and to hide this scandal... demonstrating just how "unrighteous" is the leadership of the Watchtower Society.

    Fortunately, the news media and the inter-net will not let this issue go unnoticed. The public is now aware of the abuse. And the longer the Watchtower waits to deal with it the worse it becomes.

  • Valis
    Valis

    Could someone email the editor of Sunday and give them info or would even do any good?

    Sincerely,

    District Overbeer

  • A Paduan
    A Paduan

    I would think ozzie has ? I?ve emailed the editor before ? but perhaps they could do with some follow-up

    Regarding the 'theocratic war strategy', the Sunday program journalist used the words, "even more sinister is the fact that??.."

  • Jerry Bergman
    Jerry Bergman

    An article on Lying in court and religion can be found at:

    http://www.freeminds.org/doctrine/doctrine.htm

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